Imagine playing Metal Gear Solid, and as soon as an enemy appears on your radar, you see an exclamation mark above your head and everyone surrounds you. Yeah, that's pretty much what trials is. Take it off, its impossible to play a strategic 3 man no respawn game where you can just magically sense someone's presence across the stage. Its unfair and stupid.
(Anyone talking about corner campers, please stop. Every gun on the game can kill a shotgunner from outside of shotgun range, stop hugging corners. And don't put your backs to them either. Even in real life a common military command is "Check your corners" If US Marines can kill corner campers so can you.
(Hopefully Last edit: Anyone who is riding on Bungie is not included in the conversation, just because you like the game doesn't mean you have to pretend it doesn't have problems. I've been a die hard Bungie fan since Halo 2 had the first midnight release of all time. I love Bungie and I've been here a long time. Part of loving them is helping them grow and improve, not pretending they're perfect. If anyone's watched Whiplash, Fletcher said that there are no 2 words more harmful than "good job." Let's make this our dream game guardians. Let's push Bungie to new heights)
(Extra edit: Disagreements are welcome! Bring your reasoning and understanding. I'd very much like to have a decent discussion with somebody that doesn't involve name calling and insults. The only people truly unwelcome are the naysayers. Don't misunderstand my want for peace in the forums as denouncing everyone who disagrees as a troll.
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2 RisposteI agree with title , I didn't read the body.
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34 RisposteThey need to have weekly modifiers to make it more interesting No radar No exotics No revives No special weapons No heavy round Auto rifles only Scout rifles only Pulse rifles only Hand cannons only No jumps No supers No grenades 50% slower movement No Melee 300% slower reloads Weapon perks deactivated Etc...
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3 RisposteYou know if you crouch you for the most invisible on radar. Also if your a blade dancer you can turn invisible and run around and jump as long as your not blinking and not show up on radar
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Modificato da BadBoyANGELO22: 7/13/2015 5:54:50 PMI wouldn't mind if they have footsteps so I can hear them with my turtle beaches
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"If US marines can kill corner campers so can you" I'm dying lmfao
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Well trials is competitive if you think about it having the radar on prepares you for combat and what sounds more competitive to you a bunch of clueless guardians that have no idea you are coming or a bunch of guardians that know the enemy is coming and is ready for combat
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Taking away the directional tracker will render competitive, rng. no enemy detection, running around until you find a target, like call of duty. The tracker is perfectly fair, deal with it.
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Modificato da ninjalynch: 7/13/2015 5:48:16 AMSo your fine with going invisible and going around a corner to take out a whole team. Trials would only make the OP stuff worse and make it a camp fest. Also the problem is it doesn't matter I get a shotgun we out of a corner from a distance as they can blink away and either kill me or get away to rinse and repeat due to the ridiculous map size that caters to that play. The meta would be who blinks shotgun or uses thorn best.
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1 RispondiThen you wouldn't be able to know that that pesky Titan was around the corner waiting to cave my face in with a shot gun.
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4 RisposteIt's not an issue if 'every' gun can kill a shotgunner, it's about time to kill. In fact, most of the bitching on the forums is about weapons killing to fast. Also, the pvp is equated to 'no skill' due to the ability to kill too quickly. What this boils down to is people want less TTK. Radar is the only thing in this game that prevents the crucible from being Cod, 'I saw you first your dead'. Lack of radar will not equate to skill but only give those who lack it a better chance at survival. With radar, there is no excuse to not trade shots with an opponent. There is no excuse for not knowing when your about to take fire. Lack of radar turns any strategic crucible play and turns pvp into a slot machine, kills by chance.
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No thanks. Corner sitting is already bad enough.
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2 RisposteYea, they need to do an inferno + Trials hybrid and do the same with IB. That would make it a lot better, I can't believe they haven't done it yet.
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3 RisposteNot a chance in hell id play if there was no radar. Ive played inferno before for a very short time.. i can recall moving around the map only to find some fgt crouched with a shotgun just waiting for people to walk past him.. thats not PvP
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5 RisposteYou havent even gone flawless which tells me you like to be a sneaky -blam!-er and play games like inferno but when it comes to trials you keep failing. Trails isnt for everyone but everyone can play it.. if you dont like it dont play it.
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3 Rispostei played inferno skirmish and it was so dysfunctional. it was way too easy to win with a dual shot gun strategy. which after long testing turned out to be the most efficient strategy. im a big bungie fan because the radar system creates a better game flow. it just a different style of game. radar is not magic as there are many things it could detect to tell positions. before you start complaining about magic, you should look at everything about this game. it was once said that when technology is so much more advanced then it appears to be magic. anyways radar promotes more strategy as it creates a larger focus on positioning as opposed to first man on the trigger. not to mention that a large part of the game involves the radar such as abilities and grenade placement. camping would be uncontrollable as most maps are built for shotguns practically and certain areas could be dominated by snipers.
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Best weapon on all accounts.. shotgun.. [spoiler]Error: invalid thread[/spoiler] [spoiler]Git gud[/spoiler]
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2 RisposteWhen your crouched and immobile your shouldn't be on the radar at all. But the radar is supposed to be motion based. It's not witchcraft... I mean in MGS they can hear you move as well.
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I believe an inferno trials would at least be worth a shot. If you know anything about fps then you should know that it's usually no problem dealing with corner campers
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Anyone who is so worried about corners has forgotten about the overtime objective. Also If your team sticks together then corners are no problem all you have to see is one guy die from a corner and you know he is there.
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I like it. I need good headphones to sound whore
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6 RisposteMy game glitched yesterday and I could not see my radar, super energy, freindlies nameplates, ammo, and ammo timers
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Signed. Maps like widows court with all the great cover and attack paths are ruined by radar. Even if I crouch, I still show up.
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6 RisposteAnd how would teams with no mics communicate?
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That'll just promote people to camp in corners like cod
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1 RispondiIt would be identical to all the other inferno playlist, destiny is not a good game to take off radar. It will take all the gun skill out of trials. Everyone will resort to blink shotty or simply camp around a building. This is arguably one of the worst ideas to date.
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4 RisposteModificato da Apollo: 7/12/2015 4:02:04 PMYOU SOUND LIKE A BITCH, now what you they really should do is take off the whole picture completely so we have to rely on sound itself.