Greeting fellow Guardians, I brought a few gifts from the Golden Age...
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This Destiny is not the Destiny that Joe Staten and Marty envisioned.
What has become crystal clear to me these last few days is that the biggest issue with the pricing structure for TTK is that the $60 and $80 TTK bundles are what Destiny (or this version of) should have been from the start.
Whether the demise of the original Destiny lies in the hands of Bungie, Activision or both, there can be no dispute that as fun as the gameplay is and as much as we enjoy this world, [b]we were sold an unfinished game.[/b] Bungie can deny it all they want and they can make up all the stories they want of it all being part of their 10 year plan.
We went into Destiny with eyes wide open expecting a story, universe and adventure like nothing we'd experienced before. What they cannot rationalize away is that we dropped into that world and found silence, invisible ceilings, death zones, disjointed and shifting economies, mixed messages and ideals on weapon balance and leveling, infrastructures like vault space that could not hold up to actual game world demands and closed off areas that revealed we were only playing a portion of that existing world.
Over the last year we have paid for a beta that we've bug and stress tested. What is worse is that at each step along the way, we have had content restricted if we weren't willing to pony up for the next "expansion". The locking out of content amounted to virtual extortion. The complete lack of any in game means to access either raid or 90% of HoW endgame content, showed the utter contempt that Bungie feel for this community.
Now they want us to [i]repurchase all the content we already own[/i] to enjoy the "full TTK experience" and even after all the backlash from the Luke Smith interview, we're told that
[quote]The Collector's Edition is mostly sold out, so the people who found that stuff valuable jumped at the chance. You'll likely see it sold on eBay for much more than what we're asking. But that's not the point. Right?[/quote]
I appreciate all the support this community have shown each other since the launch of the game. I have been both humbled and amazed by so many of you and I am so thankful for the chance to have gotten to know some of you a bit through these causes we've fought together for, but I'm sure most of you feel the same... at some point I just want to enjoy playing Destiny again.
Bungie, this game is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be an escape from the reality of the ups and downs of everyday life. Except it's starting to not be fun anymore and it's time for you to make a decision. What is your motivation going forward?
Do you want to drip feed content and milk us for everything you can in the hopes that the content is addicting enough to keep us around? Or do you want to take the chance to try to create something truly great and build a living, breathing, social experience that we can all step into and lose ourselves in together?
The Destiny that was is not, but the Destiny that can be still is.
So who are you Bungie? The visionaries that dreamed up the worlds of Halo, who would play alongside us with your flaming skulls and who made us feel so much a part of that world? Or are you the condescending corporate lap dogs you've shown the last two months?
We don't want to fight, we don't want to be adversaries and I say with real sadness that many of us just aren't going to stick around to find out if you don't right this ship and show us that you give a sh*t.
You keep saying you’re listening, well it's time you start taking part in the discussion. We'll all see what you have to say in the weekly update tomorrow and I hope it's sincere, but words are cheap and we've seen your eyes and teeth.
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It seems that while I was posting this, we have received part 1 of the weekly update. The answer to our anger and the olive branch offered as a sign that they are really, truly listening to us now...
[b]They've figured out a way to introduce microtransactions into the game.[/b]
You were right about one thing at least, Bungie. Actions do speak louder than words.
----Edit 2-----
DeeJ says "We'll talk next week". Can somebody please explain to DeeJ how conversations work?
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Modificato da ThatWasntButter: 8/31/2015 3:27:02 AM
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This game could have been so much more. Instead, we're left with a stripped carcass slowly being rebuilt piece by minuscule piece at a time by a developer with a staff that seems far more focused on profit than actually delivering an engaging universe and a great and rewarding experience.
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Love the last comment. Keep up the threads!
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The 60 and 80 dollar versions are still all that are immediately apparent on PSN. You have to dig DEEP to find that buried 40 dollar version........
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Currently destiny is a laughable joke... With TTK dropping I don't think anyone's going to be laughing, just depressed at the corporate greed that's infected one of the most important game companies in the last 15 years, and has infected a world we wanted to be part of. A world we now see as a mistake rather than an experience. Maybe just maybe the blue torch of creation can be lit on the heads of the people we once respected. For now we'll just see them starside, floating in their own debris.
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Can you make another edit and let DeeJ pay for being a douche
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Deconstructing Destiny! the making of a Nightmare... D:
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3 RisposteWell said, some additional thoughts: Price tag really wouldn't matter if the game was drawing us in, building and evolving. Working individuals can afford $40-$60 IF they wanted to- outrage here shows a lack of want, something Bungie should address. Most will buy taken king. It looks fun, lots of people are excited, they should be. It will be cool, but probably for only a month. I personally had 2 or 3 weeks with HoW before I was bored. PvP is (apparently) awesome. All the choices (thorn or thorn), all the maps (bottom side and top side) with interactive components.. (Not). Their fix is drastic catering to PvP, which is the higher paying market in video games, but they [i]advertise[/i] to the PvE player, then put it on the shelf after barely throwing it together. I prefer to be taken to a nice steak dinner before I'm ______ed. Plenty of people call us whiners, good riddance, etc. for expecting a replayable game. I have 600+ hours, not an insane amount, but still. Knowing those hours are gone come TTK release, what was the point in them? "The experience" - I agree, but at least half those hours were grinding for gear that will soon be useless, which now seems like a wasted experience. Wouldn't it be better to wait until Bungie is done actually developing the game 3 or so years from now, then pick up the content for cheaper and actually have a developed game? TL,DR: Of course the game needs to move forward and companies need to make money. But throw us a bone, or scraps, or something. The disappointment is not to a confined group; everyone I play(ed) with feels the same way. The money will roll in because really it isn't that much money and they advertise well. It would be nice if that money was earned rather than extracted from an ecstatic rather than reluctant gamer base. I personally can't wait for Halo, even after what has been done to that game there's at least a story.
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Ooh dream weaver I believe you can get me through the night Ooh dream weaver I believe we can reach the morning light
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2 RisposteModificato da AMGS8: 8/13/2015 8:21:53 AM[i]The Collector's Edition is mostly sold out, so the people who found that stuff valuable jumped at the chance. You'll likely see it sold on eBay for much more than what we're asking. But that's not the point. Right?[/i] That post by Deej is possibly the most annoying thing to come out of Bungie yet. It shows their attitude to the community quite well on several levels. Even asshat's comment about throwing money at the screen doesn't irritate me as much as this one.
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If the game is made better, what will you write elaborate posts about? It will never be the game you "want" because the real game is right here, isn't it?