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10/23/2014 8:19:26 AM
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Serious question about exotics
Every time I come to the forums, I see people complaining about exotics being average at best.
The second thing I see is people complaining that they're too hard to get (from bounties).
So I have to ask, if you want to be handed these top tier weapons for free/little effort, can you really expect them to over powered? I think it makes sense that the weapons that are basicly handed to you on a silver platter are not that amazing.
Either do the work, or don't complain about them being average.
Does anyone agree?
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6 RisposteModificato da Canthros: 10/23/2014 12:23:32 PMThe biggest problem people have with the exotic bounties seems to be the PvP requirements. I dumped one for invective, recently, because I looked at my KD in the Crucible, and if ain't gonna happen. I'm currently working on the PvP side of Thorn, and it's ... tedious. It's unpleasant, and it's unpleasant in inverse proportion to your skill in the Crucible: the worse you are, the longer it takes and the less enjoyable it is. While that's somewhat unavoidable, it's magnified in the Crucible. To be clear, I'm not bothered by [i]how long[/i] it takes, I'm bothered that it's [i]not fun[/i]. Protestations that I should get better or that I'll gain valuable skill by pursuing it is risible. I play games for recreation. If I wanted to do things [i]just[/i] because they're good (for a nebulously defined version of good) for me, I'd eat vegetables. Further, a game [i]is supposed to be fun[/i]. Design choices which encourage interaction that is unpleasant should probably be regarded as errors. ETA: the other half of your question has to do the community's holding of conflicting or contradictory opinions. This is just a natural result of having a large enough group of people to have multiple opinions and perspectives. It happens in other fora, too, in regards to other topics.
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6 RisposteTo be honest with you: reaching lvl 23 was a Walk in the Park for me. I loved Destiny and grinded for hours without feeling the clocking. But now i am stuck at lvl 23 and every i mean every single Loot drop has less light than the shi. i've already own. I did everything from crucible to Strike ( just no raid coz i wanted to become Lvl 26 first. I am that Type of Multiplayer guy that has stellar rounds with superb K/D ratio and the Next three matches i run around and having 3 Kills 5 assists and got destroyed 15 times. I mean Even i am on top or suck badly: guess what no loot Now i'm trying to reach vanguard lvl 3 so maybe i could buy stuff. But this is the point in time the bad grinding starts coz now Shit gets horrible repetitive- any suggestions to help me out
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4 Rispostereally exotics are just legendary weapons with a more unique feel to them, Also the bounties are not that hard I think the bounty for thorn is probably one of the hardest and I did it in about 6 or 7 hour.
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2 RisposteI agree that they should not be a great deal better than legendaries. However, I think some exotics are useless while others are great. For example compare the effectiveness of Icebreaker to Bad Juju
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14 RisposteI agree. Earning Thorn was the best part of this game. It's a sad truth. But the difficult crucible task was tedious, but it rewards the skilled. And the Summoning Pits challenge was intense, but I thoroughly enjoyed it too. To all that have Thorn, you are the true, skilled players of this game. Not only in PvE, but PvP as well.
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3 RisposteI have to say I agree. I just recently earned Invective. While the work for it was difficult, it always feels rewarding to watch it chew through a blade dancer charging me down in crucible. And honestly, if these weapons were too ridiculously OP, the multiplayer would suffer terribly.
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3 RisposteProblem is, the bad juju took a lot of work and that gun is such a piece of shit.
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1 RispondiOP gets it! Well said!
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6 RisposteModificato da SOB BADD0GGIE: 10/23/2014 2:19:35 PMThe RNG exotics are a lot better than the bounty exotics. None of the bounties are so difficult that they are impossible to be completed. Of the 5 (currently) exotics that you can receive, only two are useful (IMO). Pocket Infinity is great for dispatching majors in higher leveled missions and Invective is a great special for use in the Crucible. Thorn is awesome except when you have to reload, which is often considering the small mag size. Bad Juju doesn't pack the punch that you would expect an exotic to. SGA is all over the place when you fire it. I understand your point, but the exotics that you get from the bounties actually require effort on the part of the player to get them. To have these items not match to the wonders that are the RNG exotics, is a little one sided. I've put the work in to complete all five of the bounties and none of them hold a candle to the performance of Icebreaker which was a Xur purchase and a Nightfall drop. Completing the Nightfall to get it was less challenging and frustrating than collecting Pocket Infinity or Thorn. The exotics that can be awarded for spinning in the corner of a Crucible match should not be more powerful than those that actually require some effort on the part of the player.
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1 RispondiPretty much there is a HUGE gap betwween certain exotics. Compare hawkmoon and bad juju. One is highly desirable while the other is in a state of utter garbage. Or a dirrect comparison can be made between truth and gjallerhorn since they are the same type of weapon. Gjallerhorn has awesome special abilities while truth is only considered decent because void damage in vog. If you had to choose between the 2 for any situation that damage type doesnt matter then you would always choose gjallerhorn. This is why people complain they are "mediocre". some who complain about how hard some of the bounties are typically just not good at the game. The fact you have to pvp for bounties tends to be the part most people complain about. Ive done several of the exotic bounties and they have all taken 5 or less pvp matches to complete. I could imagine thorn would be one of the harder ones because of the void damage requirement (especially for hunters) but just using a shotgun and a rocket launcher you could easily get a 1 kd which will eventually get you the weapon.
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1 RispondiI just want the vex mythoclast. I've done the raid on Hard over a dozen times and no vex. My raid group has gotten the vex 2 times and even 3 times over. I think I deserve something better than chatter white or shards for completing the raid on hard...
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1 RispondiAny one saying there hard to get is wrong i have a total of 27 exotics and only missin 7 of the weapond 2 of um bieng monte carlo and haekmoon but i play on xbox so yea
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1 RispondiMany people equate "exotic" to mean "more damage." Which is incorrect. They have unique perks, which make them stand out. For example, Thorn's d.o.t., or full auto fusion Pocket Infinity, or Truth's proximity detonation. Bungie is giving you an edge, not an advantage. There's a difference.
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3 RisposteGarlic?
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1 RispondiFrom the few bread crumbs we've gotten I have the feeling that exotics will be important at some point....
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1 RispondiSay it again. SAY IT AGAIN. NO PAIN NO GAIN
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6 RisposteComplete the bad juju bounty and tell me it was worth the effort lol.
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1 RispondiModificato da MIA Philly: 10/23/2014 1:07:13 PMI think the two complaints go hand in hand. If these weapons are just going to be left alone to be mediocre at best and worse than the legendary/raid weapons then they should be easier to get and you should be able to equip more than one at a time. On the other hand if they are going to buff them and actually make them top tier weapons then its fine to make them hard to get and only let you equip one at a time. Currently though the system to get them and use them along with their perks isn't justifiable.
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1 RispondiExotics shouldn't be average, they should be superior to all weapons in the same class that aren't exotic. You can only equip 1 after all, so why even bother if most legendaries are equal if not better? Some exotics are mind boggling bad, Pocket Infinity after the nerf, Bad Juju and Thorn are absolutely shocking, there's rare pulse rifles and hand canons that are better.
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4 RisposteModificato da hardazzdiamond: 10/23/2014 12:29:24 PMI don't complain about having to work for my exotic but I don't play PvP and have been required to for these bounties before I get fed up and abandon them. I did the 200 kills with a fusion riffle during the nightfall for pocket infinity and it was ok but I refuse to be forced into the side of the game that I don't like
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1 RispondiAgreed. I think the only ones that are worth having are Gjallahorn, Plan C and maybe I've Breaker oh and the Mythoclast. All the others are gathering dust in my vault. Hard Raid weapons are the True Exotics. Love my Fatebringer
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4 RisposteI did the the work. Had over 12 same 3 exotic bounties. I always do it so I can dismantle for energy. But I want to get different ones. I got so mad when Bad JuJu and Thorn Sucked. They are supposed to be exotics. I get angry when people who get the exotics that are low levels and barely play the game. They didn't have to do the work. Bungie screwed up that system how you get items. Items you get should be based on level and if you get the wrapon through reward you should get bounty not the actual gun.
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3 RisposteModificato da Jasondurgen: 10/23/2014 11:53:03 AMDon't forget the little bitches that are crying about them being overpowered.
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2 RisposteIt's almost easier to get Exotic Weapons opposed to Legendaries. That's the shame of it. I think I am missing 5 exotics. Monte Carlo Gjhallahorn Multi Tool Plan C Universal remote Not bragging either because I don't use half of what I already got. But they are just easier to get imo.
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3 Rispostei feel like getting thorn was a lot of work. i did not buy this game for pvp. i bought this game for pve. i have played fps team deathmatch styles of games for almost 10 years. i finally decided i dont really enjoy that style of game anymore. i really enjoy this games pve. i have completed 2 exotic bounties. both of them required me to play pvp. thorn required me to play decent in pvp. after completing the pvp challenge and then the level 26 strike, which for me was pretty challenging. it took me a couple days and several in game hours, between 5-8 hours to complete both my exotic bouties. i feel like for the amount of work i invested to get those guns that they should have been better weapons. i am not complaining. i am happy to have them for proof of my accomplishment, and i understand they will get buffed. i simply just dont use either of my exotic weapons i earned the hard way because they are not great weapons. durring my pvp part of the bounty i got very lucky, and recieved the mida multi-tool as a reward in a match. the mida multi-tool is an amazing exotic. pure luck got me a much better exotic than the bounty rewards offered me.
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3 RisposteI feel that they should be more rare than they are by far. But then also better than they are.
