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5/1/2022 11:52:50 PM
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Sooo... why is freelance trials still not permanent yet?

Forgive me if this is such a cardinal sin for asking, but why?

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  • Where would teams of 2 play?

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  • The "splitting the base" argument is silly because not having freelance is literally splitting the base. People just aren't participating until its back. Anything one does (excluding Trials) is splitting the base. lol

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    • Splitting the player base into 2 permanently (freelance and not) would eventually destroy both playlists. Medium skill players are now able to go flawless and lower skill can get further into the card than ever before if they decide to form a team. Yes this is at the detriment of solo players but before a solo couldn’t even enter trials and now they can if they just want to farm loot, bounties etc as it is rewarding regardless of if you do well or not. Having solo be permanent would stop this as the skill floor would continue to rise as lower skills drop out and push medium skill players who want to do well into the lottery that is freelance. This would again increase the bar and you’d see lower skill players getting stomped or carried by their teammates and have people engage less. Having freelance permanent would punish every single player except the low to medium skill player who wants to win in trials but not form a fire team. I don’t think that’s a big section of players compared to everyone else and I think having it as a monthly event is enough to let those guys have their time. There is currently nothing stopping people doing LFG if they want wins or playing solo if they want loot and bounties and all players are kept together for the biggest range of skill and best connections.

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    • Whenever I try to play trials with just one other person, we cant find any games since solo players are in freelance and stacks are full. So I assume freelance is not permanent because bungie wants to protect 2 stacks. I personally don’t care either way what we get. Trials is trials, I just want loot and will play on my own vs 3 stacks if I have to.

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    • “Rhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!” -sweats and streamers

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    • Bungie is making sure that the game can support two separate play lists. Trials has struggled to support even ONE in a healthy way prior to the overhaul last summer. So Bungie needs to make sure that splitting the player base doesn't result in Trials dying again.

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    • Its mostly the splitting of the player pools, which has multiple negative effects. Longer match times, lower match quality, and my least favorite, it denies groups of 2 from entering the mode. Plenty of people cant always get a group of 3 together but want to play with one of their friends, and freelance forces them to either split up or lfg for a third, and if youve ever lfg'ed for trials you will know its a toxic cesspool

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    • Memory refresh: https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/50561 Quote from that TWAB: Trials now allows queuing and matchmaking without a full fireteam. We want to allow more players to try the mode out and start earning rewards, even if they don't have a fireteam. You can enter the playlist solo or with a friend, and matchmaking will fill the rest of your fireteam for you Freelance Trials (No pre-made fireteams, solos only) will also be available via Labs. More on that below. Going Flawless on your own will be hard-to-impossible, but we are sure someone will do it thanks to the other players they match up with! Key point being that last one - hard to impossible for solo flawless. It was never meant to be anything more than make it accessible to those who wanted to play and didn’t necessarily want to get a full fire team. Freelance was an experiment, and may become permanent, but as many below point out, splitting the player pool up too much is contrary to the goals of the trials rework.

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      • Precisely

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      • They should make freelance trials rumble then. Only the top player gets a win with number 2 in the lobby getting his loss ignored. That way severely unaware bad players can't flood the Playlist hoping others will pull their weight as well. Also the flawless pool should be disabled in freelance.

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        • Unnecessary.

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        • Either a portion of this community just has insane anxiety issues or they just really want the game to revolve around them. Bungie made a game. A multiplayer team based game. Why do people ignore the clear signs? Almost 90% of this game is designed for teams and this hasn’t changed. Get some friends or lfg maybe?

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          • because thats not the point of trials and this game. Your suppose to interact with fellow humans work as a team shoot move communicate and kill. Buy a mic and find a team.

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            • Modificato da hate n payne: 5/2/2022 6:03:13 PM
              I think Freelance is a bandaid system for a problem that hasnt been solved or still in the process of solving. While I do admit Freelance is much better than solo-ing in the team based mode of any setting due to the neglect of lobby balancing, the problem isn’t necessarily solved by adding it. Bungie needs to address teams against solos. This should rarely be an occasion versus a common setting. Second would be structure of players against each other aligned with connection. Should be a bracket system designed around kd, kda and win ratio. 0.0-1.0 1.0-2.0 2.0-3.0 3+ This concept should contain filler players who are needed to even the teams out when players leave or get error coded out.

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              • Bungie has no idea what they are doing. That's why. This fact shows especially in PVP.

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              • Modificato da うちはマダラ: 5/3/2022 2:40:23 AM
                Going Flawless with a team that never opts into communicating Deafinitely deserves a new emblem...

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              • Because it's unhealthy for the trials population and it's supposed to be a team game mode.

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                • Because Trials is a team game, Freelance is to let the casual player see what Trials is about.

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                  • There are not enough players to split the playerbase in half every week.

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                  • First because it's meant to be team based, you can enter as a solo but strictly because solo's cried that lfg is scary. If you're gonna go solo don't expect long win streaks. Secondly you can't have both permanent freelance and permanent flawless pool. If you try then every single weekend for the second half of trials the player base is divided by 4 and that's just not sustainable. Pick one, always have freelance available or always wait for Bungie to remove decent players from your player pool you cannot sustain both at once for more than 1 weekend a month

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                    • It’s what the community wants, but Bungie doesn’t care! It’s not a democracy!

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                    • To encourage people to find 2 other people to hold hands and cuddle with.

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                    • Cause it’s not difficult to find 2 players to play with in a heavy communication based 3 player mode…

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                    • Because the streaming folks that are paid for carries said no.

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                      • Because the company that makes the game doesn’t want it to be. Not that hard of a concept.

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                      • Easy so match making dont take for ever i believe that's why solo player gets the middle finger

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