Auto rifles, scout rifles, and sidearms all seem to be in a pretty rough state

ew. i hate auto rifles. Wasnt it buffed recently, precision frames now have a .8 ttk?

Fix scouts and ar’s. Hc range is stupid.

Hand cannons are mid range guns though. They should beat an auto due to their risk reward nature. Miss a hand cannon shot and your ttk is signifigantly increased, miss an auto shot and itll barely change your ttk.

I got an age old bond (the 360 rpm raid auto) a couple of days ago, and i am melting people in crucible with it. It’s not even a good roll.

Dude, I've been beaten at long range with a hand cannon whilst using a scout rifle! (I'm not that good) Bungie has put way to much emphasis on hand cannons for far too long! Every weapon, except for hand cannons could do with a little love and attention. But that isn't how bungie want you to play their game. You want to win engagements? Use a hand cannon. Want to enjoy pvp? Waste your own time grinding for lunas, then feel free to ruin quickplay for anyone who doesn't want to play the game bungie way ;)

Bigger mag sizes and increased body shot damage across every archetype would be a buff that wouldn’t be game breaking and would improve ARs substantially.

They should Increase the base stability of 720 rpm autos and increase their bodyshot damage, but not crit. Improve recoil direction to be 60 or better on all 720s. 600s need more bodyshot damage but no increase on crit. Increase recoil direction to 60 and above for all 600s. 360s need to become a bit more stable and give it some extra bodyshot damage. Remove requirement of "standing still" on all heavy frame weapons to allow for more accuracy on all high impact frame weapons. 450s just need some of their old long range aim assist back and a slight increase to bodyshot damage. (Their range nerf will still prevent them from firing too far and killing quickly. Pair this with their rather below average ttk and they will be good to go). Hardlight needs to lose its stupid ass screen shake. Sweet business should rev up faster and restore 15% of its magazine on kills. Suros should get bonus rounds in spin up mode, at least 40 rounds. Increase the effectiveness of suros legacies bonus damage. Cerberus needs to have its reticle be more stable. Increase crit damage on the middle barrel (the normal one).

Auto-rifles can work, but require incredibly specific rolls to do just "decent." I have a Tigerspite with Kill Clip and Outlaw, and it's pretty good in PvE so long as you can keep Kill Clip going. The problem is that a carpal-tunnel inducing pulse rifle or ugly overweight pistol(handcannon) can do the same work even with mediocre rolls. Exotic auto rifles are especially lacking. Suros is the epitome of mediocre and boring, at least in PvE(granted I'm sure it's intended for PvP. Whatever.) Sweet business is impractical in all areas of the game, rendered obsolete as soon as Prometheus Lens came into the game. For it to be any good, it needs to function like a proper minigun and not have to reload until every bullet is exhausted, as well as being able to pre-emptively spin up the barrel. Hard Light is a weapon I have recently developed a particular hatred for. I got the catalyst for it, unlocked it which maxes out the stability stat, but it does nothing in reality because of the dumb artificial screenshake applied to the gun. Hard Light was already very stable to begin with, but still sprayed all over the place because of its arbitrary screen shake. Even with max stability, it still sprays like crazy. I have a sidearm with max stability and 3 round burst, and it behaves like a max stability weapon should: no recoil whatsoever. The crosshair doesn't move, and the bullets hit dead-center. Doesn't work with Hard Light.

Not a bug, its a feature. The design of hand cannons are such that the optimum range of ARs and Hand Cannons overlap....and the way Hand Cannons deliver their damage (in bursts rather than sustained like an AR)..... ...means that if you take on a HC user with an AR----all other things being equal----he will beat you, unless he make a mistake. Bungie isn't going to change ARs beacuse they are right where they want them in the meta. One of the easiest weapons to use by low-skill players....but one of the harder weapons (in terms of TTK) by a high-skill player in PVP. HCs are the opposite. Difficult to use by low-skill players, but rewards high-skill players with a faster TTK than easier to use weapons. If you want to give yourself the best chance with an AR, then you need to: 1. go with a 450 RPM weapon with HIGH stability. . Fastest TTK among ARs. 2. YOU MUST land head shots. Once you start missing or landing body shots against someone using a hand cannon, you're done. 3. Try to find a weapon with either Triple Tap or (preferably) high-caliber rounds. Triple-tap will extend the period of time you can fire without reloading and maximize your sustained damage advantage against the HC user, and let you leverage any mistakes he makes. HCR significantly increase the flinch that headshots deliver....and can make trying to fight back with a precision weapon difficult. VERY highly-skilled players have learned to overcome this....but it will give you a larger margin for error to work with against any other HC user. TLDR: Go with a Tigerspite with either Triple Tap or High-Caliber Rounds.

don't forget sidearms, they lose almost every engagement.