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12/25/2017 11:17:35 AM
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Y'all need to chill

Alright, listen up. Apparently people have a multitude of issues with Eververse and microtransactions in D2, so I'm gonna clear this up for you. Eververse items are 100% cosmetic. Nothing Tess sells gives anyone any sort of edge over anyone else, which is the way microtransactions should be when they're included at all. To those of you who complain that she doesn't sell anything worth spending money on: you're right! That's the -blam-ing point! Because if she did sell stuff that was relevant to the meta or actually useful in game, you'd have a pay to win system ala Battlefront 2. Bungie isn't EA, so that isn't the case. They're being fair and balanced. To the rest of you who are just pissed that you're not getting what you want out of bright engrams: suck it up, buttercup. It's all cosmetic crap anyway! If she sold legendary engrams that would be one thing, but again, everything she sells is cosmetic. So grow up, and stop whining that you aren't getting what you want, because without Tess you'd just be praying to get it from somewhere else. Finally, to those of you who don't want microtransactions at all: why? It's all cosmetic, and if people want to spend $500 trying to roll an exotic ship, that's their prerogative. You don't have to do it, too, and it doesn't give them an edge over you when they do. It's a smart, harmless way to make some extra money; as long as Bungie doesn't pull a Battlefront we're all fine. Plus, bright engrams aren't that hard to earn, so it's not like you literally can't get any of the stuff she has - I've spent exactly $0.00 on silver and have exotic ships and sparrows for all of my characters. Those of you who want microtransactions out on principle, just stop. You make as much sense as people who are racist or homophobic: it's not hurting you at all, so just let it be. Actually, it's a thoughtful way of dispensing cosmetics, especially with her rotating silver dust/bright dust inventory. Focus on the big things, like the need for more content in the next DLC and rollable perks on guns and armor.

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  • The issue isn’t inherently micro transactions but the manner they are implemented and how other systems have been affected. All armor was made cosmetic with a poor mod system so that eververse items would be desirable compared to other in game rewards. Shaders turned into consumables. The arbitrary time associated with getting rewards increased with a pay to bypass system in place. Random purchases with a dissociated currency is unethical. It isn’t smart, just exploitative. The system has not benefited the game despite the funding argument and continues to be a distraction from more important things that should be addressed.

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  • You are missing the point entirely. Eververse locks event items behind a bad random number generator with no way to buy the specific item you want. For a free to play mobile game, this is tolerated. Destiny 2 is a [b]$60 AAA sequel with a season pass[/b]. Gamers are sick of bad microtransaction systems that lock items behind a roulette wheel in fully-priced games, especially in a loot-based game like Destiny 2 that already struggles to make its loot drops feel satisfying. And that's 100% fair to have criticisms over.

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    • The issue isn’t inherently micro transactions but the manner they are implemented and how other systems have been affected. All armor was made cosmetic with a poor mod system so that eververse items would be desirable compared to other in game rewards. Shaders turned into consumables. The arbitrary time associated with getting rewards increased with a pay to bypass system in place. Random purchases with a dissociated currency is unethical. It isn’t smart, just exploitative. The system has not benefited the game despite the funding argument and continues to be a distraction from more important things that should be addressed.

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    • Actually my problem with Eververse is simple ; they clearly spent more time creating "cosmetic crap" , than they did on actual content for the 20 dollar expansion. 20 dollars is a third of the base price and we got a tenth of the content with most of the loot locked behind the grind/pay wall that is Eververse. My problems with Bungie at this moment are numerous ; Spend more time on actual content and less time on cosmetics ; stop creating greedy systems and trying to act like it was a mistake when caught ; stop treating the fan base that had to figure out how the systems of Destiny 1 worked , like we are to stupid to understand the systems of this one (which are clearly simpler). And this is just what comes to mind immediately.

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    • Cosmetic items in an mmo-type game matter a geat deal. If the game for you boils down to only its mechanical side, then why do you think we have graphic quality appreciation, art styles and soundtracks? The answer to that is - because graphichs, whether you like it or not, matter a great deal. Cosmetics and customisation options are a part of that, and a big one at that. By your logic you yourself should be playing a black and white pong right now, because everything else is just cosmetic isnit?

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    • Ok, keep supporting soulless cash grabs😃😃👍🏻

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      • Cosmetic but then how do you explain the lack of content in the DLC for the price we paid?

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        • 1. Bungie is not EA because Bungie is smarter and more devious. What you wrote is basically giving Bungie a pass on their devious behavior. Examples: XP throttling to decrease the frequency of earning bright engrams, mysteriously bad RNG sorted out by some very smart people on Reddit where Bungie copped to...and there are more evidence that Bungie throttles the whole of Destiny 2 progression. 2. This is not the same Bungie that made the Halo series....what happened to "making games for gamers". That is what the CEO of EA said years back, and well, we know what happened there. It's all about the money and that in itself is wrong and is the big picture for them, not our big picture. 3. We do not want more content that is the same type of content of what we have now in D2. It is boring, too easy to beat (campaign mode) and the story is still disjointed. 4. Although cosmetic, those items should be end-game rewards from specific activities that complement and supplement the items we earned from playing. This is a major reason why many of us played D1. End-game rewards should not be locked behind a paywall. You miss the principle of the gamer's arguments in its entirety. It is our time devoted to playing D1 and earning those rewards. Now, D2 does not have those rewards because we have to rely on a terrible or intentionally bad RNG engine, where bright engrams trickle in because Bungie decided to double the XP needed to earn a bright engram whilst throttling certain activities further limiting XP gains. The problem is: Bungie gets caught, cops to it, then moves on by blatantly stating "ok, you caught us because there are those that hang on to the Bungie is our friend fantasy. It has nothing to do with pay-to-win. It is about taking away many things that did work in D1 and throwing them in the garbage for tomorrows trash collection.

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          you forget that destiny is a "looter shooter". When over 60% of the games "new" content is locked behind a random lootbox instead of it dropping from playing strikes, raid, lost sectors and other end game activities, it removes the "looter" aspect from the shooter game. I don't really agree with tess considering the lootbox on the mobile market support a game that is completely free and games like rainbow six and overwatch support it with every new content being free. The lootbox strategy should not be in a game like destiny!

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        • Modificato da Kone19ps: 12/26/2017 8:27:15 PM
          “It’s just cosmetic” completely misses the point of a looter shooter without gear progression. Cosmetic is the progression. Events have gone from content with microtransactions to glorified storefronts. The majority of new content goes into eververse. This isn’t overwatch. The whole point of the game is to collect. To encourage these microtransactions the rest of the game suffers. Before in dawning we got srl. Now we have snowballs. That’s it

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          • "They're being fair and balanced". Thanks I had a good laugh at that comment. Doesn't Eververse sell armor? Doesn't armor come with stats? Don't those stats affect your ability to move, take damage etc? Cosmetic? Even Bungie have noted that there is a problem that needs a fix. Have fun and may RNG be forever in your favor.

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            • destiny 2 ,the most expensive microtransaction app ever? or just a broken rushed shell of a game ever sold by a AAA developer ? you decide.

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                So you're telling me that it's fine for a loot based game to keep 80+% of the loot behind loot boxes that the developer insists you buy rather than earning through normal gameplay? Sure you can level up to get them, but it's very clear Bungie doesn't want you to do that since they've been caught throttling xp gained and then increased the amount of xp needed to get one. Not to mention the loot locked away behind the loot boxes were obviously designed to look more appealing than anything you can find in the game to encourage you to buy them.

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                • poor bungie ,not making enough money selling the base game,having to sell items via microtransactions to make even a tiny profit?really,i think not ,they make tons of money with both the game and microtransactions and to me its not reflected in the quality of the game as such,why not sell bundles whit fixed content,with prices sett according to the content,because rng makes more money .its a scam!simple as that.putting microtransactions in the game harmless enough to most people,but not for all,they indeed are not forcing people to buy eververse items,we are given the choice but some people are inclined to make the choice to make a purchase for whatever reason.....if not there wouldnt be a thing like a gambling addiction.theres no reason putting microtransactions in a game other than to make more money,wich games in the past did not have,if they had i would have stopped playing games a long time ago,can you imagine microtransaction in classics,lets say final fantasy 10,killzone,half life,so on,it would brake the game,as it does with others......and to me destiny ....

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                • Modificato da Truthiness_Inc: 12/26/2017 10:09:59 AM
                  The game is rated teen. They encourage people playing their game to spend money to roll the slot machine that is eververse rng for real money...this game is gambling aimed at children.

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