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11/30/2017 1:43:26 AM
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New Update MISSED the Mark

Sadly after reading through the State of D2 blog posting a few times, I’ve just about lost what little remaining hope I had for this game to truly turn things around and be the sequel we all expected and deserve. This was their opportunity. And they blew it. Unbelievable. While it’s long overdue to even acknowledge these issues, any communication to improve on them is clearly welcomed. That goes without saying. Yet the sheer amount of things we’ve been asking for so desperately since launch which haven’t even been addressed are staggering!!! In favor for....kill tracking weapon stats....? What?Really? So let me get this straight. We’re still gonna have the god awful two primary system, underused snipers/shotguns, useless grenade launchers, no lmgs, abysmal excuse for exotics (which will be even easier to get as if they’re even remotely hard to earn now), no tier 12 stats to chase or grind for to improve player abilities, no 6v6/or playlist choices at all, no strike exclusive loot, no random rolls, no gear set bonuses, no loot dropping from bosses onscreen instead of from tokens, no mass shader dismantling, no net code improvements, still a casual catered buffet of handouts, reskinned gear and items, the return of three of coins(Who tf asked for that?!), and the list goes on and on. Anyway, at least it’s a start. I hate to even be saying all this or sounding like the umpteen whiners who’re endlessly complaining, but c’mon this is crazy. You can’t piss over our heads and tell us it’s raining. We can’t be thankful or grateful for that which we didn’t ask for or want, especially since it’s being done in place of the things we DO want and have asked for all this time. So I guess it remains to be seen if this game will trudge on through and stay on life support like it currently is, or if they choose to continue down this road, and the flame will flicker out.
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  • Modificato da Touch: 11/30/2017 7:03:26 PM
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    "We are also moving Ranked PVP to the [u][b]top of our priority list[/b][/u] for next year to support the competitive community" Why on earth is this a "top priority"? This contributes nothing to [i]improving[/i] Destiny 2 and somehow it's made it's way to the top of the list. I just don't get it, hardly any of it. I don't want to sound ungrateful that they are adding things but don't title the blog "The state of Desitny 2" then proceed to list things that are mostly cosmetic (emote wheel, ornaments, kill tracker on weapons--[i] I don't understand the purpose of this at all[/i]) then go on to add economy changes that would really only affect new players, and even then, only for a short time. The changes are short term and in some cases don't actually solve anything at all. [u]3 of coins[/u]? You serious? The game already spits these out like candy. The duplication mechanic that is said to be in the works will faze out the need for 3 of coins almost instantly. [u]Vendors will sell gear[/u]: Ok, that's great except if you've played for any length of time there's a high probability that there won't be anything for sale that you don't already own. Everyone knows what's good already. [u]Legendary shards[/u]: See 3 of coins and Vendor gear. Legendary Shards will still be a problem, what's being implemented doesn't really fix that. (except for mods I suppose but again, if you've played for any length of time this doesn't matter either) [u]Ornaments[/u]: There's nothing wrong with the ornaments themselves but playing for ornaments is like playing for shaders to be honest. This is an FPS, a prestige Raid will give me an ornament and emblem [i]before[/i] a special weapon or armor piece? Sorry, but that's not right. Not for the amount of work involved. [u]Iron Banner[/u]: I think this is the most valuable piece of work they did. It's great, Iron Banner became an absolute chore between the random drops and regular game weapons in the loot pool. [u]Strikes[/u]: It sounds like you'll just get extra items when you do them. That isn't bad itself but for a lot of people, that translates into additional shards, tokens, and weapon parts. If the loot pool was considerably larger than it is, the economy portion of this game wouldn't be much of an issue. Unfortunately between how generous the game is with Legendary and Exotic gear and a small number of realistically good choices in gear, the economy will be close to the same until the armory doubles or triples in size. (or new mod features) [u]Mods/Masterworks[/u]: It's a good idea but it lost its appeal at the end of that sentence: "...from a small pool..." Adding a mod to change a weapons performance is great, however, if there's only a few choices and even fewer are good, then everyone will have the exact same weapons and load-out's still. Good idea, but it will only create a false sense of diversity and for only a short time. A good majority of what suffers in Destiny 2 are [u]choices[/u]... and the need for an [i]abundance[/i] of them in all areas of gameplay. Finally, the only thing that would really shake things up (or could) would be the only thing that wasn't talked about: Sandbox changes. I think this is the most important for a lot of people going forward but we will have to wait to see what that entails. I honestly think the real changes (one's to shakes the hornets nest) won't occur until DLC 2 or possibly even in the Fall 2018 DLC ("the big one").

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    • Personally, I thought the post was hit and miss. Masterworks weapons are a good idea, but I cannot fathom why they would waste time on an emote wheel.

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      • Relax its just a beta

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        • oh.... don't forget they're using time & resources to develop an emote wheel, where we can have several emotes readily available. because you know - that's what the community really wants and will make D2 great again. [spoiler] laying the sarcasm on pretty thick here[/spoiler]

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          • Yes they are doubling down on PVP as their top priority, the exact reason the game is in the state its in now, with promises to add a few bandaids to pve along the way. Their promises will certainly improve what is possibly the worst loot based game ive ever laid eyes on...so theres that.

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            • They covered practically nothing the community wanted

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            • This game is gonna die SOOOO HARD. Too many have left that won't come back. The few that are considering coming back feel like the 'State of Destiny 2' blog was just another kick in the nuts. Let's just let it die. I was stupid enough to buy the digital edition with the season pass. Already 3 characters 305 with every exotic and every exotic weapon skin. Stopped playing about 6 weeks ago. Tried the first Iron Banner but stopped as soon as I saw it was token based random rewards that included non-iron banner loot. They have -blam!-ed up [b]EVERY[/b] step of the way this time around. I will play the 2 DLCs coz I already paid for them (so much buyer's remorse). I seriously doubt they can fix this game enough b4 DLC 3 for me to consider buying any more Bungie products. Let's just let it die.

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              • They made all the lackluster gear in the game easier to get while not adding anything new. I don't know who this was supposed to excite

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              • Missed the mark? I'd say they weren't on the same continent as the mark! They're like that kid who just won't own up to doing the wrong thing no matter what.

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                • Sounds like you want Destiny 1, so go play it.

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                  • Been playing Bungie games since myth and after all these years I am just done with their games and community and it is mainly due to their treatment of players themselves and the attitude their fanboys hold towards anyone that has a complaint or criticism. This series will never get any better because anytime they do anything remotely positive they get showered with praise and adoration, but everything bad get swept under the rug, it's just not worth it anymore.

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                    • I love how everyone is preaching doom and gloom without once ever playing the new content, checking out the QoL changes, or experiencing the updates for Season 2. Me - I'm going to hold my comments until after I get a chance to play the new content. FYI - still enjoying the original content, just not collecting anything useful.

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                    • It did wonders when you already got youtubers with huge followings telling people rerolling a stat is the same as perks. They are covering everyone's eyes.

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                    • All they did was read the off the release notes of upcoming releases Then they went back to developers and asked what can we turn back in now from d1 ? Hence 3oc shows up They were and are just d2 stuff they have nothing to do with the quality of the current game They just communicated the road map Now they need to communicate the CHANGES to the existing play Bungo is arguing that some like master weapons will satisfy the more stuff to get and better weapons Heroic strikes Turning off rng from vendors for a direct economy

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                    • it was a start i guess. but i definitely think they left out a lot of things

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                    • Modificato da CookieNiki: 11/30/2017 10:41:11 PM
                      [quote]This was their opportunity. And they blew it. Unbelievable. [/quote] I feel you but they didn't blew it, it's way worse than that. They completely know what people have been asking mostly but they just don't want (and won't) deliver it. If I learned anything from the Crucible Radio interview and from yesterday podcast, is that Bungie decided long ago that D2 would be like it is and that everything that was achieved with D1 is past and has no place in this game (minus a few innocuous things, here and there). It's my strong belief that we will never have another Destiny like the first, a game with many shortcomings, but fun and addictive to play, that only got better as years passed by. Bungie decided to leave that road and present us with a game that feels like a bad spinoff of the original Destiny. Bad in so many ways that it's literally boring and pointless to replay.

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                    • You do know the two primary was originally planned during d1’s development right?

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                    • Sounds like you don’t like the game, you should stop playing scrub

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                      • [i][quote]I hate to even be saying all this or sounding like the umpteen whiners who’re endlessly complaining...[/quote][/i] And yet, here you are with this post. The game you want exists. It's called Destiny 1 and has three years of content to play. Have at it. If you you don't like Destiny 2, stop playing it. Problem solved.

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                      • Yep. It's a PR technique called "dated outrage". It is done to nullify and invalidate the angry group, so the masses ignore them. It works like this: 1. The players are mad. 2. The media reports on it and it puts the brand in a negative light. 3. The company makes changes so the media has to report "Bungie made changes". 4. Now, when people are mad, the supporters say "are you still mad about that? They made changes, stop whining!" Bungie is hoping that the media is too lazy to go back and follow up in the changes, and won't point out that the changes didn't actually fix the root causes. 5. The players point out the changes were superficial and actually fixed nothing, but are disregarded and ignored by the fan boys as "disgruntled, spin foil hat crazies". 6. The core players get frustrated and eventually leave and stop complaining. 7. The average casual ignorant consumer says "Destiny huh? I heard there was some drama, but then I heard they made changes" and buys the game. 8. 30 hours later that new customer realizes how shallow destiny 2 is, and a new angry customer is born. 9. Bungie doesn't care because they just made a new sale. You'd be amazed by how often this tactic works in business and politics. The end result though is a slow death. The best of Bungie get frustrated and leave to work elsewhere. The core fans and customers leave to pay other games and the franchise slowly dies. The bungie today, is not the same bungie that made halo.

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                        • Modificato da dotEXCEL: 11/30/2017 12:04:58 PM
                          You really think that the update, which drops in less that a week could have fixed all issues of the community. do you think ingame features are growing on trees and are easy to get? not really. i expect bungie to overhaul the game with the second expansion. its just to little time to fix the game till CoS. so i give bungie a chance and wait till the rasputin dlc which will be release sometime in Q1 of 2018. if that fails to solve most of the communitys issues then we all have a right to bit ch and complain about bungie's game. for now we have to play the waiting game and keep reminding the Dev's(in a non insulting way) what needs to be fixed in the months to come. if some of you dont have the necessary patience for this process, just leave the game and maybe come back when stuff is getting fixed.

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                          • Funny/sad/-blam!-ed up, story, someone broke into my house and [b]left[/b] 2 copies of d2.... They didn't take anything. Idk I want to be more pissed off about, the fact that they broke my window and didn't take anything, or the fact that they left two unopened copies of destiny 2.

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                            • They had the chance and they completely fuked it ..

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                            • MARK . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . BUNGIE

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                              • Nah bruh, bungie hit the mark they aimed for. They just don't aim where the people that made their game a success do. For example, they made D2 after D1.

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                              • This. I can't stand how so many YouTubers came out and we're blindly supporting this trash of a Blogpost. They aren't addressing any core issues of the game! It's like they aren't even listening.

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