They actually will be running on dedicated servers... technically speaking. Too many people have been tossing that label around for too long without knowing what it really means. As a result, the general public thinks it means something it actually does not. The label describes how a server is purposed... It isn't describing how we connect to it, nor the level of dependency on that connection. All those games are actually running a mix of stand-alone and client-server design... none of them are running true pure client-server models like so many seem to think they are. If they were, there would be horrendous input lag. According to a lead engineer, all of D2's hosting will be done from servers... no client-side hosting like they had in D1. That will make it the same hosting model as all those other games. Only servers hosting, What is different is allowing clients to share data directly with each other as well as the server, which provides a means to potentially improve the accuracy of each local instance... provided everything is managed well. Server's will still be authoritative hosts, with clients deferring to the host instance data during each synch cycle... same thing all those other games do. Bungie is just granting local host a higher level of authority between the server synch cycles--but they will still defer to server data in the end. What remains to be seen is the server tick rate, and just how brutish they will/won't be in overriding the clients.

Have to agree. The lack of dedicated servers is what's keeping me away from buying Destiny 2. I'm very sceptical regarding how well will netcode perform I'm uncontrolled environment.

It's not gonna happen, Bungie is happy with subpar servers that they need to "help" by limiting the amount of players in the Crucible There's gonna be lag up the ass and match making is gonna suck

Dedicated servers could do the following ; 1. Protect your privacy. P2p exposes your IP address. 2. Normalize connection and validate update hertz requirements. (Stability and better matching) 3. Offload processor effort from console, to the server. Remember processors are the bottleneck preventing 60fps on consoles. Id be curious what % of processor could be freed up and allocated to frame rate. 4. Prevents me from blocking your IP address via my firewall kicking you from our trials match. But dedicated servers cost money and having some guy code in a basement netcode till his eyes bleed and creates the abomination Bungie uses is still cheaper. Just remember, when Bungie could go cheap, they did. #theMoreYouKnowRainbow

Pls define dedis, what you expect them to do and why you would expect dedis can do what you want. Thank you

D1 needed dedicated servers because it gave us the option of what playlist to pick. D2 doesn't necessarily need dedicated because we can't pick any more. I don't like that change but on a connection point of view it's going to give match making X3 more players to choose from. Giving it a better chance to pair you with players that are closer and have less lag.

They won't get dedis any time in the forseeable future. One their pillars of design is that you [i][b]never[/b][/i] experience self-rubberbanding, which is only possible if the server is authoritative over your position.

Yeah I play top mp games with dedicated servers. Guess what? When I host my friends from the other side of the country lag, when they host the ones from my side lag. When I play with over seas friends you know what happens? Dedicated servers will not fix anything.

WE'RE NOT GETTING THEM. Name five AAA titles that got dedi's AFTER the game had launched.

We also need our own personal dick sucking ghost but it doesn't exsist.

It's lot of money