Boring...no Crimson Day :( no event? :/ ...boring again...

I am most excited about last word. I bet you bloom still screws it over. because you're "supposed to pace your shots!"

I'd be happy with monthly changing just to keep the crucible weapon variety on its toes. Also yes they were ridiculously bad at playing. Even the other four who Deej said were their crucible elite....... really Deej...... really?

[quote]The sandbox team buff and nerf things in such bulk that it messes up the status quo of how crucible works. I never agreed with others when they said incremental weapons tuning needed to be a thing, but after this stream. I agree 100%. What I personally believe this sandbox team need to do are nerf/buff things incrementally, so we can be the testers, because if you watched the stream, you could see how awful they play. They are terrible at their own game so you can't be surprised that they destroy the balance when they themselves are incapable of playing competitively. Thoughts?[/quote] Your best weapon is a shotgun. You have more than twice as many kills with specials than primaries. You're just salty.

Destiny isn't a competitive game. It's a game which is meant to be fun. Not be analed by shotguns every second.

Imo everyone should wait till the update and see how these changes actually feel in the game and stop assuming. You may be suprised.

https://youtu.be/C0gzJJ4rzvY Gameplay starts around 42:38. They [b][i]SUCK[/i][/b].

Jon Weirznewski admitted a year ago in a podcast interview that he argues against the data his team brings him (they were trying to prove that bladedancers needed a buff and he said no) Same interview he acknowledged that the reason fusions were kept weak for so long was that one guy on the small playtest team slayed with Plan C. Use the data! Better yet, do an open beta server for two weeks of testing prior to roll out of any new re-balance! I swear, I love this game, but I've never seen a company have this much trouble balancing their own game three years after launch. I've never seen a FPS struggle so much with how to balance a silly shotgun?!?

Let COD focus on PvP.

It also proves that Cozmo brought his reddit bias fully to the table. Unsurprisingly, the only group that seem happy with the changes are Destiny Reddit Its been obvious for years that Reddit is there main source of influence

This is why pc games have it better than console. 3 letters. PTS. Giving gamers a public test server is how things get patched by people who actually play games unlike bungie. (Im cyrrently saving for a newer pc to handle new games) and i wanted destiny to be on pc even though i wouldve have been able to play it and rly hope destiny 2 does come to pc

They were trying to show the viewers the differences that the upcoming changes were going to make in the game world. They weren't trying to win. That was just some casual gameplay at work to showcase what they've been working on.

Tldr: Open a crucible beta game mode into the crucible playlists. Maybe the risk outweighs the reward but what if it didn't? Exactly and here's some food for thought! Their test lab is basically irrelevant to the rest of the population because their connections are going to be on point the whole time. Aren't they? Did they experience any latency problems between each other? With latency in the mix opinions can change real fast. They should open up a crucible playlist that is used for scientific purposes of the game. Then we can actually tell how those changes will fare in the "real" Destiny population. This is just an idea but could be totally wrong don't take it to heart please. Put the playlist in DESTINY and ask players to participate in it to make Destiny the best it can be. Participate for Destiny science. You could even open it up on a timed event each month. They could see how their test lab numbers compare with the rest of the population who play everyday.They obviously have the tools to collect data from the playerbase. Isn't there a possibility that people who play daily or have played often have a better idea into the reality in DESTINY? You could warn people things could change any moment while playing this mode, player discretion is advised. Take people's thoughts and opinions through chat (not sure if this part is legal) and actually take some data numbers from these games. Accuracy info and numbers, connection info numbers, their own test lab numbers. Connections would be all over the place so it would be more accurate in Destiny's "real life". The data in the experimental playlist, or call it a beta playlist, could be very useful IMO. I'd be so down to participate if it gave them better insight into the Destiny population and gaming experiences. Maybe their just isn't the resources to do this though. Or maybe there's a better way to do this than what I have said here. Are they spreading themselves too thin? I don't know what happens behind the scenes at Bungie. I can only base my opinion of them off what I know about them and what they tell us is true. I base my opinion of the game on my personal experiences in this game, and what my friends have told me their opinion was. They don't even come to these forums to share their opinion, but I can see my friends list has disappeared and they don't log into Destiny anymore and they told me why. I can kind of see how the people here know more about their game than they do. Because it seems they play it more than them idk! Speculation. Imagine all the people's opinions on these forums and Reddit's, now add all their friends' opinions into the mix. You are who you hang out with. And why don't they believe the forums and Reddit could represent more of the Destiny community than they think? Excuse my thoughts being all over the place. Edit: I forgot to mention I have 3 ps4's in my house with 2 other people that play Destiny, and they have friends lists too with opinions of their own. They've since told me what they think. Also have family that play Destiny out of the house. That's a big circle of friends and family.

To be fair some of the changes were just pure bull sh€t. They could've brought shotguns down a bit and buffed sidearms, snipers, and fusions. And it's gonna be a hand cannon meta, I'll call it now. [spoiler]Quite happy with the low rof auto buff though [/spoiler]