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12/29/2016 1:29:22 AM
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Should SNAP/Food Stamps program end due to abuse?
Fox News thinks it should. Abuse of the system is ruining it and a waste of money.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/28/fox-news-wonders-if-we-should-cancel-food-stamps-since-0-09-percent-of-spending-is-fraudulent/
[quote]A bit over 44 million Americans participate in the government's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, more commonly referred to as food stamps. That's a higher number than in most years past, representing about 13.7 percent of the U.S. population, but it's down from the high of 47.6 million in 2013, 14.9 percent of the population that year.
What's incensing Fox News, though, is that 2016 saw a record-high level of fraud in the system, with $70 million wasted. The network hosted a discussion Tuesday morning with a simple conceit: Should the program therefore be ended?
In December 2013, a poll conducted by United Technologies with the National Journal asked Americans whether they thought that changing the rules to limit food stamp availability should be approved, even if it kicked 4 million people off the support system. Two-thirds of Americans said that was acceptable. How many would accept booting all 44 million isn't clear.
But it's useful to consider the broader context of the question before we consider scrapping the program in its entirety.
For example, the amount of fraud reported in the SNAP system is a tiny fraction of overall spending. The cost of providing nutritional assistance to those 44 million people (on average each month) is $70.8 billion. In other words, the amount of fraud is about 0.09 percent of all of the money spent. Visually, that looks like [url=http://i.imgur.com/5Kg2cbc.jpg]this[/url].
There is a slice representing the fraud in that graphic. It's just not very big.
There's no question that fraud should be rooted out and eliminated, of course. There's also no question that the $70 million at issue could have gone to more useful purposes. But in the scale of government waste, that $70 million is peanuts.[/quote]
Hmm, doesn't look so bad now.
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No, we should keep government assistance. However, I do think if someone is able to physically and mentally work then they must also be working to receive the assistance.
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1 RispondiHow to be Mad Max: Only make posts containing articles and 1 sentence at the end. The only time you should ever argue is when replying to someone, and even then just parrot the arguments of others. Used biased media sources that agree with you. Downplay arguments that you can't disprove and make arguments you support seem like earth-shattering issues.
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Should be regulated more strictly. Examples of abuse follow. Example 1 I'm in high school working at the local grocery store. Bagging groceries one day and along comes a women with two carts FULL of items. Of course she is wearing bedroom clothes, slippers with the heel pushed down on the rear so she doesn't actually have to use effort to put the slippers on and dragging her feet. I bag the first cart and watch her pay with government assistance. Well over 100 dollars worth. Think nothing of it and hope the best for her. Then the next cart comes up and is so full the items are close to falling out. Cashier checks her out and the customer then proceeds to pay cash for over 200 dollars worth of beer and cigarettes. You could have pushed me over with a feather. Example 2 Same job and am loading groceries into a car that has a awsome sound system, nice rims, and other nice features for customers on assistance. Not to mention the nice clothes, jewellery, shoes, phone and various other items I see. Example 3 Neighbor up the street falls on hard times. No problem, we as a society need to extend our hands. I know them personally and know they need the help. Time goes by and husband gets a new job, and then gets offered a promotion. But wait, the promotion means no more assistance. Husband declines and goes on doing what he was doing because the assistance payed more than the promotion. Example 4 My parents divorce. Dad chooses to pay the bare minimum required and tells mom to go sexually assault herself. We have nothing.....NOTHING. Mom goes to apply for welfare and gets it for about 2-3 months. ( absolutely embarrassed and devastated by this) During that time she gets not 1 not 2 but 3 jobs. Supports 2 children AND later puts herself through college with NO assistance or loans. Example 5 Drive by the welfare office, hell, go inside. Many of those cars and clothes and what not are nice,I mean NICE. One of the first things that needs to happen is that people should be checked for TV, internet, and cell phone plans. See what they are wearing, look at what they are driving and then told to come back when they really need help.
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2 RisposteIt should be ended regardless of what we characterize as abuse.
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Absolutely not
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1 RispondiIMO, it shouldn't be done away with completely, because it really can help people in need. But the process should be changed, too easy to abuse. Identification requirements, limits on what is allowed to be purchased with the stamps, etc. Food stamps saved my butt when the recession hit, but my parents made it back up and off of government assistance, so i can personally testify that they can help. However, one of my best friends had a good-for-nothing father who lived off of it, spent most of it in liquor, leaving just enough for food for the kids. So again, i personally know it can be abused.
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Fox News will always defend me no matter what
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How else will I pay for my venti java chip frappes?!
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Nope. It is a great program. It helped me tremendously after I got laid off a few years back. There is so little fraud and abuse that it doesn't even register in any acceptable scale. In fact it is really hard to claim it fraudulently due to the amount of information required; and even if a person does provide false information the IRS will find it. They find everything.
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Needs to be changed, but its a god program. Unless you come down on people with complete control, there will be bad apples, its a way of life. I, by the way, am okay with that. I'm all for freedoms, but I'd also like less people abusing programs like this.
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11 Risposte"Some people misuse guns" "Should we ban guns"
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5 RisposteModificato da Apollos: 12/29/2016 5:55:11 PMFood Stamps need serious overhaul. [spoiler]EDIT: 70 million in fraud[/spoiler]
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Of course it shouldn't be reduced. The reason why the "abuse of social services" lie is pushed is by many congressional conservatives is because they need a pretense for cutting food for the poor in order to pay for tax cuts for corporations and and the rich(who coincidentally donate heavily to their campaigns)
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There should just be a better vetting process. Not sure how that would work, but it should happen.
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4 RisposteModificato da What: 12/29/2016 6:28:06 AMlol I would love to know how these people figure out the percentage of welfare fraud/abuse Hint: THATS IMPOSSIBLE One thing I do know from FIRSTHAND, unlike the people who tried to figure the percentage of abuse, is that abuse is rampant. WAY WAY WAY higher than .09% 1. How can they figure out who sells their food stamps each month? I see this nonstop. People sell their monthly payment to someone for half price, give them the card to go shopping, and then they give the card back after they buy what they paid for. THERES NO WAY FOR THIS TO BE TRACKED 2. Part of the abuse is the fact many of these people spend their money on junk food because they have other forms of income. They literally see their monthly money drop as extra money for junk food. Ive had many friends in life who would basically spend their entire card at the liquor store. I had a friend who paid rent by giving his stamps to the homeowner Welfare should be like WIC in which the user is only able to purchase certain things like bead, milk, cereal, and meat and they should have to present ID so the cashier can see the person buying the food is the person on the card
