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Modificato da KitsuneSonow: 8/2/2016 6:46:57 PM
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Rise of Iron pisses me off and proves Bungie can't weave a good story....

Edit 4: Since people are NOT reading the actual topic and just assuming I am bashing the DLC overall I am putting this here. That is NOT what it is about. I am not mad about the DLC or ITS story itself I am mad that they built up this war with the cabal and just DROPPED IT for this story which could have been better used or introduced at a later date. IIt's as people have said Filler, which is bad in and of itself. Edit: I do get they are using the Cabal for Destiny 2 or some other big expansion, but as a person who enjoys a good story it seems rather abrupt to just insert a new group of enemies that had little or no build up. As I said in an example, this would be like watching DragonBall Z as it leads up to the Frieza fight and then suddenly, for no real reason, Cell appears out of no where and they fight him instead. Edit 2: For the people saying "It would take time" there has obviously been some time between The Taken King and Rise of Iron. Not to mention, they have used hyperspace/slip space technology in the game as well which could take them anywhere in an vastly less time than you might want to think. Also, saying that the message will "Take Time" is also incorrect. If you people would remember, in one of the missions they say that the cabal received an order outside the solar system to crash the ship into the dreadnaught and use it as a beachhead. For the people bringing up Grimoire, I mentioned that, but it is so minor as compared to the Cabal which had a lot of build up in The Taken King. For the people using the "But House of Wolves came between The Dark Below and The Taken King", That's true, it did, but it was so abrupt and out of nowhere as well, still not a good excuse when it comes to telling a story which is my complaint. You may wonder why I think this. Well before we begin, let's take a back at Taken King. Sure our main enemies were The Taken, but we were largely dealing with the cabal as well. They even go through the process of telling us they have no more ranking officers, and that there was even and outbound message going DIRECTLY TO THE CABAL EMPIRE. They literately build it up as though the cabal will be the next big enemy. Then we see leaks of Rise of Iron, Saladin standing in front of a broken wall. Surely, only the cabal could bring this might to earth, after all the wall has stood for so long..... BUT NOOOOOOO....They build up all this story and tension between Guardians and the Cabal....JUST TO GIVE US MORE FALLEN. Why even build it up that tension in the first place? I mean it almost feels like a goddamn joke. There was barely even MENTION of what the Devil's were doing anywhere in the game or grimmoire either and no Mention of SIVA whatsoever. I mean, this would have been cool if you were fighting the cabal on earth and discovered the Devil's doing something and then it leads up to this.

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  • One word : [spoiler]No one gives a f*ck[/spoiler]

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  • You need filler side stories to build up to a big threat. If they keep going from big threat to big threat there will be no room to expand on anything else and the story will have no where to go after the darkness is beaten.

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    • When we killed Crota and Oryx wanted to take revenge, it took him a little over 9 months to get here, be patient, the cabal will invade again soon enough.

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      • I completely understand. We were all expecting a cabal dlc then they come out with this fallen/iron lords dlc. We were all like, "Wut?"

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      • Simple. Rhey are giving the community what they want. Since how people were clamoring for a fallen raid. It was not until taken king did i start seeing people ask for a cabal raid. Or maybe a tower defense raid. So based on timing they are providing fanservice for their original idea of not providing a raid for how

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        • The cabal are a slow race and need time to bring their new fleet in the Sol system. They recieved the message and are on there way. Sadly we don't have time sit around and wait for them to arrive as Lord Saladin has just shown up to the Tower with a grave warning about a new force of fallen trying to attack the city

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          • They mentioned the giant cabal army/empire in one, maybe two, missions. There wouldn't even be a full paragraph of that specific army you're talking about. I have no idea where you're getting that "build up" for the cabal. Ghost mentions a "one mind that controls a million units" but we never see that "one mind" was that a build up? Are we supposed to expect to see a giant vex mind surrounded by other vex? Just be happy their putting out new content. [spoiler]cabal suck anyway[/spoiler] [spoiler]lol[/spoiler]

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          • I get what you're saying, but we getting cut content. Would you rather have something completely forgotten about but taken time to improve on or just have the cabal stuff and lose out on content over all?

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          • Somebody never watched anime with 20+ filler episodes before shit goes down in the main story

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            • [quote]As I said in an example, this would be like watching DragonBall Z as it leads up to the Frieza fight and then suddenly, for no real reason, Cell appears out of no where and they fight him instead.[/quote] So basically Dragonball Xenoverse?

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              • Last thing I know of the story, we were flying towards the Traveler and *poof* magically we were fighting Crota on the moon instead. 😐

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              • I agree it seems a segue to the main story.

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                • Cabal are probably going to be the main story in the destiny sequel.

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                • Modificato da Hey, You’re Finally Awake: 8/4/2016 6:43:57 AM
                  This proves that your a person. A great person for not bashing the. Dlc

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                • Did you forget that the cabal just sent out their signal to the empire? They wont be here over night, and I doubt that they will just be that quick to respond. so this is fine for me. I prefer having Luke Smith and his team making a far and better cabal raid ready to go for destiny 2.

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                • Considering the massive losses the Cabal just suffered it's not surprising they're not itching to go to war with the force that defeated Oryx... who decimated them quite effortlessly. Cabal are supposed to be strategic and militaristic, I foresee them taking time with their preparations and striking when they see fit. Honestly though, I could care less either way.. as long as I get to shoot bitches in the face.

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                  • You're talking about Destiny here. Look I love the game but their in game story is pathetic. We have to literally come here for the Grimmoire just to make sense of some things.

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                  • The first dlc was crota, then because it would take oryx some time to gather his army and plan an attack it makes sense for the 2nd dlc to be something else, so it was fallen, then the next dlc is oryx which makes sense. The cabal mission was a build up for a cabal dlc/destiny 2 sure, but again if its going to be a full on cabal invasion it will take time to raise an army big enough to take us on AFTER ALL we did just slay a god (the man responsible for destroying an entire cabal base) so were are a very powerful foe. Also they did just lose an entire fleet/ base so there army is pretty crippled right now. So sure they did set it up for a cabal themed dlc/ destiny 2 but remember it takes time to make plans of action and to recover lost army's. Atleast thats my take on why its more fallen again and not the cabal

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                    • Really!? It took Rise of Iron for you to figure out the story is utter garbage. Since vanilla this games story has been nothing but a clusterf**** of aids infested ideas butt f***ed together!!

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                    • For one thing Bungie doesn't have the final say on the content the publisher does. Who do you think initiated the micro transactions in Destiny ? One word Activision.

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                      • The thing about having different groups of enemies is that they can all attack at different times. It would be cool to see a DLC with two enemies doing their thing at the same time.

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                      • I've been wondering what's up with the Cabal as well. We haven't heard anything about the reef in RoI, I'm hoping we get some info there.

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                      • I just figured that after TTK dropped - the Shield Brothers strike(preventing them from blowing up the Dreadnought outright as a last resort tatic) was basically the last encounter Cabal related activity until Destiny 2. So anything in between TDB and TTK was more or less time for them to get there arses in gear.

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                        • So I'm perusing the forums, see the title of this thread, and my immediate thought was, duh, we all know this. The entire Destiny story is a huge disjointed mess. There's no character development, there's no feeling of any sort of threat. Sure we fight raid bosses, but to what end? Just because it's there? I remember in the first Halo... A linear story that made sense. They established who the protagonist was, there was the mystery of the Covenant and their motivations, a massive threat in the Halo ring, a great surprise with the Flood...you knew what would happen if you allowed the ring to be activated, if the Flood were to escape. Your purpose in the game was clear. Destiny? Soooo if we don't defeat Aetheon....then...nothing? I mean he's only just chillin in the vault. Crota? Oryx? We beat bosses just for the sake of beating them. The story in Destiny is so vague, the motivations unclear, there's way too many enemies for any proper antagonist to be developed so that you feel something. Let's be honest, the reason we play is because it's fun to shoot stuff, the game play is smooth, the weapons are pretty cool (loot), and the world's are well built and accomplishing objectives as a team is fun. But story? Theme? Structure? Just not there.

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                          • Yup. It's ridiculous that we're STILL fighting Fallen like this. The Cabal were built up with TTK and the Vex were built up by the main story of the vanilla release. We shouldn't be bouncing between the same two factions like this, it's wasting potential and wasting people's attention spans. The Cabal thing is just another issue, though, and that makes it worse. It's going to be Year 3 and we STILL don't have an answer as to who exactly the Stranger is. And yet nobody's worried about this! All the guys who gave a shit about the story from a serious perspective have given up and moved on! Story's an important part of a PvE game. If Bungie's gonna insist on keeping Destiny raid-focused, they really need to get their shit together on story management.

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                            • You forgot about Skywatch where there is a Hive ship planted there on the way to Omnigul. If you follow that wall to the other side, there is a distance you can travel. Inside a fence line! Imagine standing by the chopper facing the Hive ship. Look to the far left of the building. I believe that's where the Cabal will make their entrance.

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