SBMM provides a fair-ish pvp experience. I haven't played much Destiny pvp but in other team-based games, people beg to be matched by skill. Competition is good, generally. Edit: I support SBMM in a dedicated environment.

Wrong. The forums account for a small part of all destiny players and consists mostly of highly skilled players crying about not being able to pub stomp.

Wouldn't you be better off with a post that reads: LF5 Sweats with 1,800+ ELO and Grasp of Malok Shoulder Charge Unstoppable to go stomp some blueberries.

Oh yeah? Well 95.6% of players not on the forums love it. See? I can make up statistics too

I love SBMM

Shut up and adapt. I'm a neg K/D but it sucks man‚ getting matched up with Against True Skill 49 people

Sbmm works well for 90% of the players. It makes matchmaking more difficult for the top 10% of skilled players. 90% of destiny players are totally unaware of sbmm because they don't read these forums. Any player in the lower 90% in skill who blames sbmm for anything has been misled about what it does. You are under the impression that 90% of players oppose sbmm because the top 10% are the noisiest on these forums. But it just ain't so Joe.

I take it you've completed a poll with a representative sample of the whole player base. Because to say that you know how 90% of players feel without any data to back it up would either make you a pompous loser or a complete idiot. Anyway, since I'm confident that there aren't any losers or idiots in this community, I'll wait here for a link to your statistical analysis of the aforementioned study.

Are you sure about your claim of 90%? Please can you show me the question asked and choices of answers? Where did you do your polling? Was it a poll of current players or does it include those no longer playing? Can you also please can you show all the statistics, which obviously will include your margin of errors stats? UNTIL THEN STOP TALKING CRAP!!!

So the people are annoyed because they can't stomp noobs and actually have to try to win in every match? Because that's the message I'm getting. "plz turn off sbmm because I can't pubstomp anymore waaaah".

Correction: 90% of the FORUM community. You have no idea how people who don't go on the forums feel about it.

For starters your claim that 90% of the community support you is bullshit. One only has to read the comments here to see that. I suspect you just want to raise your K/D by playing against players that you hope are not as good as you. It seems you are not good enough to rumble with the elite.

So this is the problem that I've noticed with SBMM, maybe I'm the only one, but if skill is the determining factor for matches why do I usually get put in matches where one team or the other is missing a player in 6v6 matches? If skill is what it is based on then to make the match equal shouldn't both team have the same amount of equally skilled players? To me this severely punishes the lacking team to a point where they, more than likely, will be able to beat the other team. Another thing that I've noticed recently is that in 6v6 is that if say 5 players are grouped up, and again there are only 10-11 players in the match, the grouped team always gets the extra man to fill their team, so now not only are they already at an advantage with communication they have the full 6 man team and now the other team is down to 4-5 players, and this happens in the games I play quite frequently. Maybe it's just me, but I doubt it. These problems mentioned above and the aforementioned numerous lag issues are the main problems that I see with this SBMM, before this was implemented if a team was missing a player it wasn't that big of a deal because you might have had a chance if someone on the low player team was of a higher skill, then that could compensate and the match could still go either way. By trying so hard to keep things fair, it is actually making the experience worse, in my opinion. I'm still gonna play Iron Banner this week, but I am dreading it because of these problem and when I play a game I want to have fun win or lose, not white knuckle, sweaty palms, every stinking match. It just loses its appeal. Thanks for reading, hopefully someone at Bungie reads it too.

Get yourself a fireteam and stop complaining, sbmm has a good reason to exist. If you are an average player and get matched against only elite players, just for the connection reason, you'll be smashed every time, get frustrated and lose any reason to continue playing and getting better. Sbmm must be improved, not changed, in my opinion.

For the most part, the only people I see complaining about SBMM are the elites. Their complaint? "I hate SBMM because it makes every match a sweat fest! I just want to relax while I play." Let's interpret that and see what they're really saying. "I hate SBMM because it forces me to earn every win. I just want to be able to mindlessly pubstomp other players, while I relax from a long day."