-[b]Feedback is 'anecdotal'[/b] -Balance is done through statistics, with few ideas from the community -The community can never be satisfied -You want to play CoD, and we have had that argument; "CoD is balanced." -Kabr2015 -Mida received a [b]just[/b] nerf -Snipers had the paint chipped off of them -Warlocks are going to laugh off their 'nerf' -DoP and high RoF autos required balancing at range Take your community followers and drink the kool-aid.

Nice K/D. Bet you were a front runner for 90% of the tears.

You're delusional if you think that Bungie listens to the greedy wishes of this maniacal, venomous, self-serving community over their own cold hard data. You saw the freaking MIDA graph. The usage of that weapon is quite literally off the chart it sat upon. The community bitching is in line with the data, which is a convenient card that Bungie plays to their favor. It provides the illusion that they "hear us". When the truth lies elsewhere. They hear the data and they follow the numbers. Not the wishes of the community. You can't argue with that. You certainly can't give this community the credit you're attributing to them. Please. When does that ever happen in any other aspect of life? Oh, your taxes are too high? Let me get right on that.

Look personally I think I rotating meta would do this game a lot of good. It would keep balance fresh and every gun would have its chance to be the best. Maybe have it to where every 3 months the weapons change and shotguns become really good along with hand cannons. Then it changes and scouts and autos become amazing along with snipers. Then fusions and side arms and pulse rifles and so on. It would keep the meta from settling in and people wouldn't complain as much because they would know that the meta would change again soon

Too bad that Doctrine isn't getting that big of a nerf, Mida was OP and effective at long, medium, and close range, Heavy isn't a problem (Terminuses endless clip was), Stromcaller lasts too long and is too evasive and didn't even get nerfed, Firebolts have been a problem since day one and turn a support class into an aggressive class with all of the support capabilities, Smoke is a problem because it covers too large of an area. This post is completely ignorant and needs to be ignored. This update is for the beter and might make PvP good again. What's fun when you have to use Mida/Last Word and a Sniper to even compete?

The cry babies of the forums have ruined this game it's starting to happen in the division too

This cat has a .8 kd haha.

I think the biggest misunderstanding is in a game that Destiny was supposed to be, certain guns are supposed to be op. An exotic weapon should feel much more powerful than a rare, or legendary. Exotic armor should give perks that enhance/change the wearers ability in a powerful way. In my opinion, that's the inherent problem. When players don't, or can't realize, that a PvP like Destiny has made rewards the better gear you use. That diversity was supposed to be celebrated. You die at the hands of someone wielding Vex Mythoclast, and you say "damn, I want that gun!" Then grind for it. Instead, these kids die to anything and say "unfair! They shouldn't have an advantage based on weaponry/gear!"

I say get rid of crucible all together and give me a good story. Just my opinion though.

We didn't get what we want. What we wanted: .AA on snipers to be reduced .Heavy ammo to be less prominent in crucible .Viking Funeral to be nerfed .Bladedancer to be fixed .All Y1 raids to be bumped to Y2 difficulty .Some sort of buff to Fusion Rifles and shotguns to make snipers a less viable option .Auto Rifles to get a buff but LoF autos nerfed .Fix ghost bullets on handcannons What we got: .Last Word nerfed to shit .Special ammo nerfed in PVE and PVP .Only PoE coming back .Zoom increased on sniper scopes and snapshot nerfed. No change to AA .Flame shield and res shield nerfed. No change to firebolts or bladedancer 'shortstops' .Auto Rifles buffed (this one I don't mind) but no mention of handcannon hit detection .Fusion Rifles buffed but no change to shotguns The community isn't in fault. Bungie doesn't know how to take feedback and balance the game. Every step they take forward, they take 4 more backwards. We're just back in square one again because the nerfs and buffs took a full circle. Watch, after the update, people will call for Suros and Fusions to be nerfed. What they need to implement: .Nothing wrong with PVE balance, revert back to Vanilla .Bring autos back to vanilla state .Bring pulses to 2.0 state .Bring handcannons to vanilla state .Scouts stay how they are .Sniper rifles were fine, shotguns to 2.0 state w/ shot package .Fusions to vanilla state .Nerf firebolts and revert other classes to vanilla state except for Striker and Defender .Fix flameseeker and proximity glitch on Sunbreaker .Keep range on primaries which they have now NB: This is my opinion on how the game should be. You don't have to agree with it.

That nerf just might save you cause you're worse than me at pvp. Smh, didn't know it was possible. Worry less about what's being nerfed and concentrate on getting better playing your own game.

Here's a quick reason why this game can't be balanced and will never be balanced. Let's say that Bungie nerfed/buffed all pulse rifles to have the same TTK, down to the fûcking nanosecond. Pulse rifles would still be unbalanced. Bad Juju builds super energy with kills, increases damage and refills the mag with kills. A player using Bad Juju will build their super quicker and change mags less often than a person NOT using Bad Juju. This creates an imbalance. NTTE returns ammo to the mag getting precision hits, meaning a player will have more ammo in reserve than a player not using NTTE. This creates an imbalance. Red Death restores health with each kills, giving the player an advantage over players without this perk. This creates an imbalance. So, even if all pulse rifles have the exact same TTK there is still imbalance. There are too many perks and combinations of perks for this game to ever be balanced, and that's totally fûcking okay with me. #BringBackTheFun #StopTheNerfing #MakeGuardiansBadassAgain

I mainly blame Bungie. It's what happens when you ditch your strategy of creating an "open-world FPS MMORPG" style game and replace it with PvP. Our weapons and abilities were never designed with the intention of using it against each other. I forget where I read it, but one of the designers basically said Crucible was a last-minute addition because they figured players wanted to go against each other. But, due to lack of content, it has become the main focus because it's what keeps players coming back.

Mcpbrain none of the nerfs come from complaints The nerfs come when 1 gun is used over any other gun Mida and stare were nerfed because everyone used them not because of whining Bungo wants every gun to be the same