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1/19/2016 5:52:48 PM
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People leaving games and a solution
So, recently I've noticed that the thing that annoys me most in destiny pvp is not lag, not cheaters, not snipers and not the last word (although everyone knows the last word is broken as f*ck)
Anyway, that issue is people leaving games. If I'm in a team and people leave, it basically ruins all chance of winning for me. Even more annoying, is when I'm in the load screen and hear
"Heavy ammo available"
This not only means that I am about to join a game half way through probably on the losing team, but I'm also gonna get trashed my heavy as soon as I spawn.
So, why do people leave?
The answer is simple:
A)there is no punishment (more on that later)
B) most of the weekly bounties rely on winning, people who need to win aren't gonna stick around for 10 minutes just to lose.
So, the solution:
I would say implementing both of these would sort this issue out:
A) if you leave a pvp match, you can't join another for 10 minutes. If you have a good reason to leave, you're going out, getting something to eat etc, then this won't affect you, you won't be back within 10 minutes. However, if you just don't want to lose, then you won't be able to join a bother that you can win so you may as well finish it.
B) make the weekly bounties more personal based, not team based. I love the bounties such as:
Get 10 kills with different primaries
Get 1500 score twice
However, the ones like get 7 wins are a hard to complete in the current state of the crucible. I would suggest things like:
Get 3 shotgun kills in one game 3 times
Get 5 ability kills in one game 3 times
Etc.
So, anyone's thoughts? Bump if you think these changes would improve crucible.
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1 RispondiSome guardians leave games because they are thrown into matches that they cannot possibly win. I do not like being thrown into such games, and I will leave asap.
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5 RisposteHow about I will play this game however the hell I want and the rest of you can just suck it.
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Nope. If Bungie insists on putting me in half matches with red bar heroes, I will continue to leave. I won't be punished for avoiding lag switchers.
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1 RispondiThe best suggestion I have for you is to get, form, or make a team. There are plenty of reasons someone could leave a game not just because what you have mentioned above just saying.
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1 RispondiIf bungie doesn't even care, you really can't expect anyone else to.
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3 RisposteFor me it's the quests/bounties introduced in TTK: If winning a match will complete ten bounties and set off three of coins but losing it will complete none and waste a 3oC... is it any wonder players can't be bothered? Currently the game does not respect the time and effort put into crucible matches, instead fixating on winning. Give rewards for completion and people will complete matches. Punish dropouts and players will just quit Destiny entirely, thinning the player pool even further.
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1 RispondiDon't ever punish players. Let them play their way. Give rewards for staying. Implement a token system like Iron Banner, guaranteed legendaries, etc
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I will not stay in a match where half the enemy team has a red bar. Laggy sumbitches can have the match.I'm not staying in a match where douche bags are playing team deathmatch in an objective gametype instead of helping the team. I'm not staying in a match where no one on my team helps me secure heavy ammo and lets the enemy team grab both. Fix the bullshit pvp, and people will rarely quit.
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1 RispondiModificato da InfestedCyborg: 1/19/2016 7:49:47 PMI leave games due to laggers on the enemy team. You know the ones that eat bullets and melee you from 5 miles away and you die instantly. People randomly appear in front of me. Why the -blam!- would I wanna stay in that match??
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2 RisposteIt's up to you I guess. I either leave early became a loss doesn't help me complete bounties, or I AFK the rest of the match to not get a penalty. Remember I will do the absolute quickest way to get my bounty done, and I am not going to stress out over a losing match in those situations. So AFK is the next logical choice.
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3 Risposteyeah in both PVP and PVE there needs to be a penalty for leaving too many games within a set window.
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How about having it so you can't join a match mid way though so you can only join at the start we did this in sparrow racing only good thing about it why can't we do it in pvp?
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3 RisposteUsually when people quit they were getting wrecked anyway so it's actually helpful to you team if they quit, one less noob to feed the other team kills.
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1 RispondiHow would it work for people that still get kicked to orbit with random error messages? That still happens from time to time and being punished after that would make many people just turn off the game. Bungie wouldn't like that.
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1 RispondiI would not be for this. I currently leave games according tot he following. I play rumble a lot. If I am placed in a game already started where someone has 10 kills already and supers going, it will be pointless to try and catch up. If I am in Clash and in a game that starts loosing and OTHER people leave first, I won't stick around. Not worth the struggle to finish it out. I am not into putting myself into a fit of rage just to play this game. Sometimes its just easier to start over from a new game.
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3 RisposteEven if there was punishment for leaving I'd still leave. I leave crucible matches for 2 reasons, hate the map, annoyed with my team. Winning means nothing, losing means nothing.
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2 RisposteThank you for a solution and not just a problem. I think all PVP games should implement some type of timed penalty for quitting a match in progress. This would eliminate the crying about being put into a loosing match in progress. There are so many simple solutions to patch PVP together into something more coherent rather than nerfing everything and ruining PVE. This company really dropped the ball. The other problems could be solved with dedicated servers. They tried increase the latency to smooth things out but that made the PVP side of the game less about skill and more about Internet connection, hence lag switching works. If they don't make an investment and utilize modern networking then Destiny 2 will be left in the dust for competitive multiplayer. I greatly enjoy this game the physics engine makes for ultra crisp controls and gunplay but the networking utilized is outdated especially for a AAA title.
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Modificato da Littleweasel: 1/19/2016 7:58:55 PMi agree people that leave a pvp game should be punished based on how much they leave. they should be given a certain amount of games they can manually leave each week like say 10 and once they have left 10 match manually they are not allowed to enter any more pvpv match till the following week, and when its iron banner the number should be reduced to 5 times that week. they should also put in an auto kick for people that are either not moving or shooting within 20 secs since allot of people just idol in the pvp matches hoping the team they were put on can win the game for them. and the auto kick should only be allowed 5x a week for regular crucible and only 2x while playing iron banner. i'm pretty sure the only people that would really disagree with a ban for quiting or idoling are the people that do it often.
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8 RisposteYou assume way too much. I leave matches all the time, but I've never left a match because my team is losing. I leave for a few reasons. While playing control I leave: - If my team makes no effort to actually control zones. This one happens a lot. No way am I going to stick around and watch my team have a snipe-off with the other team, byebye. While playing any other mode: - If I notice the other team are red bars byebye. - If I spawn in to a match that has just dropped heavy byebye. If you think I should be punished for any of those you are just being selfish. Yes it sucks to constantly spawn into games in progress but punishing players is not the answer.
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1 RispondiGreat ideal Halo has time out for people that leave and get higher every time you leave
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3 RisposteSo if there are multiple red bar people on the other team and they are invincible I should stay and just be killed by them. No I am out. It is not the point of losing that makes me leave. Just the lagging people getting the advantage. When bungie fixes this the quitting of games will go down.
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4 RisposteThe biggest issue is PvP just sucks rightnow. People leave for various reasons, if I see 1 guy that just won't take any damage I'm gone. Wish I could do that in iron banner but the medallion is actually worth something. The only way to stop people from leaving is to make PvP a more pleasant experience. I will gladly wait 10 minutes in orbit just a a chance at a better match.
