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Modificato da Thorsin: 1/20/2016 6:53:07 PM
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Sniper issues, addressing "Quick Scoping"

The aim assist and broken mechanics for sniper is what needs a nerf/rebalance, snipers are suppose to be long range not short range. So why is is such a odd idea to make the case for a nerf/rebalance for a weapon that wasn't intended to be close range? They do this with all other weapons when they breach their respected planned area of effectiveness for range. What I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't be possible, the idea of a sniper is to be long range not up close, so if you use it up close and it's effective, it needs to be nerfed to make it fit its idea, which is a long range weapon, because up close with skill it's over powered. What I want people to realize is it shouldn't happen in any game, and I bring it up now because it's become a problem where most pvp games I play are way to filled with quick scoopers On top of what I said, regardless of skill, it's still abusing the weapon class of sniper which is intended to be effective only in long range like how a shotgun is effective in short, so if people are able to abuse a weapon class and use it outside of of its intended area of use, should it be nerfed/rebalanced to only work in its respective area? For quick scooping and dragging, the problems are the same, it's unintended use of a sniper in close range, it shouldn't be viable ever in any circumstance regardless of skill, abusing a bug is cheating, and cheating is cheating. My idea for fixing snipers is to have snipers reduced dmg in close range, after 15%-25% of their full range would it deal it's full dmg and/or there can be a reduction in accuracy while moving and just after moving, like all other weapons. No reason you can't treat a sniper the same way (but reversed) you treat a shotty. And yes I know how to quick scope, part of the reason I even bring it up is because how easy it is to learn, not master but learn. And once learned its a game breaking tactic. I praise anyone who has come up with inventive ways to use existing tools for new purposes. But my question I bring up here is When is so much innovation considered "op" ? I say it is when people quick, it's when you use a weapon that is balanced for long range and find a way to use it to out class the balanced short range weapons. It's when you take innovation and instead of creating a new dynamic that fits you make a tactic that breaks an area of the game. Though I have this to say, no one should ever have to say hmmm my weapon isn't able to combat at this range and it's impossible to close/widen the gap. No matter what weapon you use you should always be able to find a way to close the gap for your short range weapon or widen the gap for your long range weapon. 100 200 300 400... 469 comments keep it up we might get Bungie's attention!
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  • Nearly 500 let's keep pushing it guys!

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  • Bungie pls. Look at this. Snipers need something if shotguns got something. It doesn't have to be damage. It can mobility or aim assist or scopes. Something

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  • Quick scooping is not a problem at all, you staying right in the middle of the screen when you see somebody is the problem, by now I am more than used to position myself to the side of their screen when they come out, this is only at close range since you move faster than they can while in ADS, at long range not possible, a good sniper is going to get you no matter how much you move.

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    • i've been a almost main fusion rifle user until the "year of the shotgun arose" so i had to switch to one to get any kills, but ever since the taken king i have noticed too many sniper rifles have to much aim assist and it needs to be addressed.

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      • Allow me to give my own personal opinion as a sniper myself. I personally don't see quickscoping being a problem but as a skill developed by a trained hand and eye. The very fast blur and sudden movements of the enemy pose its own challenges on its own. The Aim assist issue actually is not an issue. All aim assist does is slow the reticle speed by a fraction of a second and does not provide any type of bullet magnetism. Aim assist has also been nerfed from year one and flinch has also been increased while getting shot at. So snipers are actually worse than what they used to be. As a conclusion to my personal opinion, snipers are right where they should be because someone who practices with a sniper a lot more than someone who just picked up a 1000-Yard Stare, is going to outplay that new person no matter what.

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        • You've brought this upon yourselves with nerfing the shotgun

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          • Do you even know what aim assist does?

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            • A sniper Is supposed to be precise. If you line up the sights with the head, it should hit Instead of being extremely thrown about up-close.

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              • Snipers are fine, special ammo too plentiful in crucible.

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                • I still want this to keep this conversation going guys! Let's keep it up! Get it to the DEVs

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                • I've been saying the sniper needs a fix for a while, but damage reduction is not the route to go. damage reduction is actually very rarely the route to go, but Bungie doesn't seem to get that. Instead of damage reduction the scope needs to zoom in further on all snipers and be completely zoomed in before it is accurate. The reason it's so easy to kill up close is not because of "quick scoping" like call of duty, it's because the aim assist is so high and the scopes are glorified scout rifle scopes. Make the scopes zoom in 1.5x more and the aim assist shouldn't be over 50 unless it's an exotic perk that the gun has. I think the same thing needs to be done with scout rifles too. Mida needs a longer scope so it can't be used effectively at close range.

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                  • If you get sniped stay around areas that are not open like a hallway, keep walls between you & the sniper, don't worry about aim assist, just find a different way to approach a long ranged weapon ,you could even kill em with a shotgun then tbag em, it feels nice to do that ^_^

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                    • So I'm guessing you got sniped a few times, your diaper leaked and now you're here moaning like a bitch, right?

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                      • I just had to read the headline before I realized you're an idiot. This goes to alllll the cry baby nerf twats, SNIPERS DONT NEED TO BE TOUCHED. Seriously this is the most pathetic gaming community I've ever seen. If you die from something more than one time a game it must be nerfed right? There's nothing wrong with snipers or their aim assist. It still takes skills and a good hand to land those headshots. If aim assist was such a crutch and basically gets the kills for you then everyone would be using a sniper, and that's a fact. This community just uses the easiest thing they can find. And guess what, crucible is still mostly shot gunners running around, because it's easy. How about next time instead of crying here on the forums and suggesting something needs to be changed, why don't you actually try sniping yourself. Take responsibility for your own deaths and stop blaming it on something that's not broken. Stay out of sniper lanes and get good.

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                        • Snipers are only OP in the hands of its user, period.. The only problem with sniping in destiny is the high bodyshot damage, thats it, High impact snipers should do 105-110 Low impacg should do 90-95 Alk these complaints about snipers are just by people consistanlty running into sniper lanes and they wounder why they got sniped...

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                          • Stop being ignorant shotguners

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                            • lol your credibility falls to the floor , you're a shotgun user gtfo

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                              • Modificato da Der Sheff: 1/13/2016 10:34:14 PM
                                823 sniper rifle kills to 20,000 shotgun kills *gasp*. Your Grimoire definitely indicates you favor easy kills over skill. Please tell us more about easy quick scoping and aim assist.

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                                • It's called skill

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                                  • Does every sniper you play against quick scoop? Not trying to be mean about it, but I think we have different Crucible experiences. I feel that nerfing the ads time and aa wouldn't really take away quick scooping as it's a skill players take a lot of time to perfect. It's highly situationally to even use the technique. Skilled snipers will always find a way. But again, I haven't had a lot of trouble with this; it's been very rarely that I've had someone hit me with a sniper up close that one shot killed me. As for the sight complaint, I would agree if all maps in destiny weren't small. I enjoy a lot of the maps but trying to ads with a long gaze sight on a sniper on my most maps kills your momentum. I understand that you think that's how it should be but with the main play styles being focused on fastest dp, players would just find a new thing. What if they made private matches where you could just ban short gaze snipers/snipers in general and set your own rules? Doesn't fix trails I know but would that interest you more?

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                                    • Why do people still play this game

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                                    • Modificato da NEPTUNE: 1/15/2016 3:30:08 AM
                                      Your opinion of how a weapon should be used will never constitute the use of such weapon. Grow up and stop trying to change everything in your favor. ....where is natural selection when you need it.

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                                      • Those close range quick scopes are simply the perfect mix of luck and skill people have developed. Can't really nerf that.

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                                        • Shot guns are still doing better than snipers.

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                                        • They need to remove AA Most of the montages i see snipers dont even hit the headshot smh

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                                          • I agree with you.

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