Well with supreme douchebags like these ones. I mean extreme try hards and shit ruins everyone's experience. I'm chilling at airport waiting on a flight home for the holidays and Im watching twitch. I dial up truevanguard and he's in a sweaty. In a tight game both teams wave off heavy. Then a member of the clan he was playing against [Terrified] picked up the heavy to win the game. So if you are ever playing them just back out cause they cheat.