If we're going to say shotguns only need to be up close then why not make snipers only effective from range. It's seems like its too easy to snipe at close to medium range. Bungie went through a lot of work to define where each gun should be effective from. Shouldn't something be done to make snipers less effective at close range?
After trials this week I'm even more convinced of this. Teams were storming the middle room with snipers like they were using MP5s. However, everyone has their own opinion and I respect everyone who disagrees.
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I agree. I get quick scoped by a moving sniper regularly in the crucible
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5 RisposteTry sniping for a while first. Snapshot does help but pretty much all close range snipes are lucky shots. There is no reliable way to no scope in this game. Quick scoping on the other hand is possible for some degree. Snipers are not the problem. Its the people who has played the shotgun meta for year+ and has no clue how to counter snipers. Its a learn to play issue. Nothing more.
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I don't think you understand how hard close range sniping and mid range sniping can be, especially against good players consistently.
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Modificato da Naharke31: 12/14/2015 2:42:28 PMThe bottom line for snipers is a head shot kills the other guy. I don't care how you hit the head long/short.
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Increase hand cannon range then you won't have medium range sniping as much that I can guarantee
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I get you, but in real life that's how they work. Got a target to eliminate at long range? Sniper. Want to smack someone's body backwards because you can't use a pistol or something? Sniper. The fact that you can quick-scope people at close range is dumb, but those mechanics are hard to mess with, since they are still technically in a line of sight to fire.
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1 RispondiModificato da TheMasterDB8er: 12/14/2015 2:25:28 PMHoly shit i agree 1000%. They made every special less useful for almost any situation compared to snipers. Sniping is so easy in destiny that it's becoming unfair with all the other special weapons being nerfed. Shotguns are melee range, fusion rifles are barely past melee range, and sidearms are good in mid range, but snipers are effective in all 3 ranges. Hip-fire melees are easy to pull off, sneaking in headshots mid-range around corners is super easy, and of course, snipers are made for long range so they excel there. I'm not a fan of sniping, i've always liked fusion rifles, but after this patch i feel like i need to use a sniper to really compete and it has made me dislike pvp.
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How bout we remove all range boosting perks from shotguns
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I do agree that snipers should NOT be able to be effective at close range, period. If they can remove accuracy hand cannons so that some bullets do not even register, they could address this if they wanted to. But they choose not to.
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how to fix snipers in three steps 1) make ADS time longer/slower 2) make all snipers universally have 25% aim assist and never change it again, and change any perks that give aim assist as well as scopes to give no more as well 3) take away any modifiers that make flinching, hip fire, and reloading(besides out law) easier for a sniper. you now have what accounts to a patience sniper system that allows a person to not quick scope but plan ahead of locations to snipe preemptively. (most of these changes do not effect the no land beyond besides the aim assist, and reload changes)
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Just play on Mondays when most of the try hates are done going flawless it will make it easier to win
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7 RisposteNo, you are the problem. Stop calling for nerfs. You and people like you have been a blight on this game and community.
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If they want to nerf shotguns so much and take away perks then they need to take away short gaze and ambush scopes from snipers.
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14 RisposteVery close range
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All the maps are tiny though
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This didn't start until shot package was taken away but ammo is a problem
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2 Risposte3 shot body shot on any sniper in the game even high impact, keep the damage on headshots im honestly on the fence on rez snipes...completly unsure wich way to lean on that.
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1 RispondiNo. If anything, they should lower body shot damage to around 100
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I'd take CQC snipe any day over some guy headglitching in a corner of the map...
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Well this guy quickscoped me at shotgun range mid shadestep. I was very confused how that's possible.
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Completely agree. I think the issue is special ammo, not aim assist. Snipers shouldn't be able to hold so much ammo and pick so much up. I'm kind of sick of getting sniped around a corner, playing against people that can win a fight versus a primary at shotgun range with a sniper. People almost forget their primary weapon
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Increase time to ads (how long it takes to pull it up), and decrease hip-fire accuracy.
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Quit running through door ways then, they are looking at high traffic areas. They are not op, your just stupid.
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5 RisposteThis sniper fest in the crucible right now is just stupid.
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Bungie should read the dictionary definition of the word sniper "someone that snipes at someone from a place that they can't be seen".
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It's not the sniper is the maps