I REALLY don't want to get off on the wrong foot here, but -blam!- you! You've spent so much time in the past year nerfing the players and the game that you've forgotten what this is all about. For us its about pouring hours into something you love. For you it should be about keeping a dedicated fan base and EXPANDING it. With the last few updates you have... Given us three of coins. Nerfed it to hell (1:7 pre patch 1:11 after) Introduced new ways to spend materials Nerfed them to hell Given us more strange coins Taken them away Given us more motes Taken them away Black spindle- hardest weapon to get ATM NERFED There are a ton of people defending the spindle nerf, saying it was a patch. But you tell me what it is, when they take something that has already dropped, is already in your inventory, and lower its attack damage. It's a nerf. If looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck. I'll give you a business 101 class right now. If you want people to spend money on your product, it has to be appealing. You're NEVER going to get a new player base when you've made the grind such a daunting task. Your game has to have the right balance of reward. Right now... nightfall... Useless Banner gear... Useless Trials gear... Useless Even the new emotes are -blam!-ing useless. I can't customize my dpad to use more than one at a time... WHERE IS THE INCENTIVE?! Your team is quickly throwing your game down the drain, and I don't know how long I'm gonna stick around and watch it. So here's my advice to you. Your newest DLC took away more content than it added. For a game that was supposedly built around repeatability, you've done absolutely NOTHING to make it worth spending our time on the old content. And i know a lot of people will say that that the industry standard for an mmo is when new content comes in, the old goes out. But lets be honest, destiny is an online FPS. NOT an mmo. The reason mmo's can do what they do? Their EXPANSIONS (NOT dlc's) are entire new games. Bungie i implore you to Make VOG and CE viable again. Reinstate the NF buff and for gods sake, fix the damn rewards. Make banner and trials gear drop at 290 so its a viable raid level option for the pvp crowd. If our "community managers" spent more time actually interacting with the community, they would get a better feel for what this game is lacking, where it should be fixed, and our input on the patches they intend to implement BEFORE they nerf the entire game into non existence. I know you're not going to listen to this, you don't hear anything unless it's a cry for nerf. I guess I'm just beating a dead horse here Edit:I removed the cursing so they have no excuse to remove this thread like they did my other one I would strongly advise all guardians saying this game is not headed toward pay to win to really rummage around in here... http://db.destinytracker.com/items/consumables/consumable I hope I'm not speaking out of turn when I say the community as a whole would LOVE to have some sort of open dialogue about the direction and decisions made recently. You won't be met with attacks. Just an open honest q&a. I'm not an angry person, just concerned for this game. I'm very passionate about it and would like to see it live up to its full potential for the next 8 years. If you agree with what I've posted please leave a bump so this can hopefully get bungies attention. If you have more to add or an opposing opinion please leave it as a comment. I'm more than happy to have a calm reasonable discussion about anything related to this topic. Don't get frustrated if I don't respond right away. Im off to work for a ten hour shift and can only reply on breaks, but I will try to respond to everyone.