[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=13688]THANK YOU Bungie for acknowledging our search.[/url]
[i]Yesterday, those Guardians who had successfully foraged for crucial weapon fragments began the chase for the widely-anticipated Sleeper Simulant. The revelation of this new Quest was described as “awesome” by some. Others of you, who skipped meals and lost sleep on the hunt for the elusive Heavy Fusion Rifle, were not as pleased.
The response to Sleeper Simulant was humbling because we did not predict the community reaction. When we try new things, players often teach us a lesson about how to do it better, and this one has us thinking hard about how Quests communicate their availability. Our challenge is balancing between the secrecy that makes these hunts exciting, and transparency that could spoil the fun for the hunters. As long as the community is giving us feedback, we’ll keep seeking the ideal balance.[/i]
I still argue that 'time-gated content' is not the same thing as 'secrecy'.
[spoiler]Yo Bungie, OMNISniper/echolog here. I've been doing my best on reddit (/r/searchforthesleeper) to solve the mystery of the Sleeper Simulant, and today we made a BIG step in reaching that goal. I believe we have uncovered and deciphered the full quest-line for the Sleeper, as well as ALL of the related items to the quest. The cool thing is... we are only missing ONE item (and we have a good idea of where to find it).
First, huge credit to /u/DRayX17 on reddit for [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3n2g2f/new_info_relic_objective_descriptions/]THIS POST[/url] which located all of the related items and objectives!
Below is what we believe to be the full quest-line to unlock the Sleeper Simulant, complete with links to items in the database and other data-mined information that all fits perfectly. Enjoy!
[b][u]PRE-QUEST[/u][/b] - This is the phase of collecting relics and 'restoring Banshee's memory' that has to happen in order to unlock the main quest.
[b]1.)[/b] Collect 4 DVALIN fusion rifles (Dark Age Relics) and turn them into Banshee-44. These are always found in the same order:
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027711-classified]DVALIN-RAS8711-FR002[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027710-classified]DVALIN-RAS93-FR001[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027709-classified]DVALIN-RAS30-FR004[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027708-classified]DVALIN-RAS432-FR003[/url],
[b]2.)[/b] Collect IKELOS Fusion Core (Golden Age Relic). [b]THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO FIND RIGHT NOW![/b]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665156-classified]The IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] requires several events to repair it. We will need to dismantle heavy weapons and take it around to Warsat events on various planets in order to repair and activate it.
- Turn the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665157-classified]Completed IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] in to Banshee-44 to restore his memories and receive the following quest.
[b][u]ACTUAL SLEEPER SIMULANT QUEST[/u][/b] (name currently unknown)
[b]1.)[/b] After having his memory restored Banshee gives us the quest, the first step of which is 'The First Firewall' mission ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/FartSausage![/url]). He also gives us the [url=http://destinydb.com/items/2444987010]DVALIN Transponder[/url] (previously inside of the DVALIN relics) which will lead us to the source of the 'musical signal' mentioned by Banshee after turning the original relics in!
- The first step is to enter the mission and use the Transponder to find the source of the signal. We assume the source will be the 'Seraph Network Terminal' which was the result of cracking the various encoded messages on Rasputin's computer screens ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/Browsing_From_Work[/url]).
- Once we find the source, we will be asked to enter four passcodes into the Transponder. These codes are [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665152-classified]9[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665153-classified]8[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665154-classified]10[/url], and [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665155-classified]8[/url] digits respectively. The nodes are very similar to the Rasputin symbol, and possibly represent the doors in his complex. Each node can be selected as 'open' or 'closed' and acts similar to a Binary code (1's and 0's).
- After cracking the code, we will unlock the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3774437926-classified]'Relic' version of the Sleeper Simulant itself![/url]
[b]2.)[/b] Upon bringing the Relic found in the previous step to Banshee-44, he will use his gunsmith skills to power it using the IKELOS Fusion Core and give us the [b]Completed Sleeper Simulant[/b], and then we can go shoot stuff!
Yes, the quest is only two steps. And that is important, because we already found the actual quest in the database! [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/quests/761532050-classifiedt]THIS[/url] is the actual in-game quest for the Sleeper Simulant. The reward for this quest is listed as 'Bungie Hidden Reward (3012398149)', which interestingly enough is one ONE DIGIT higher than Telesto, the only other Exotic Fusion Rifle in the game. :)
You might still be asking, [b]"How do you know getting the Core will trigger the quest?"[/b]
Well... because of [url=https://i.imgur.com/EqpkZWz.png]THIS IMAGE.[/url] That is the last page of the database when searching for 'Classified' items. You can see these items for yourself [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/search?page=4&q=classified&filter=0]right here![/url] Those items are not actually 'items' that you can find in the game. They are HIDDEN items. They represent quest trackers, which when collected, cause something to happen within the game. Each of the four DVALIN relics has one of these attached to it to tell the game which relic to drop next (which is why they always drop in the same order). Once you collect all 4 of those and the 5th IKELOS relic, they tell the game to unlock the Sleeper Simulant quest!
So that just leaves one thing... [b][u]WHERE IS THE IKELOS FUSION CORE?[/b][/u]
Well, let's take a look at it! The first 'node' on the item says this:
- MIDNIGHT EXIGENT: IKELOS subroutine
- HERCULES_11(GA=ISHTAR.ARCHIVES)
This points to two possible locations.
The first line references the IKELOS subroutine, which is not seen anywhere else in the game or the grimoire (outside of the Sleeper Simulant itself). Ikelos, in Greek Mythology, is one of the Oneiroi, the Dreamers. He is the son of Nyx (The Night) and Erebus (The Darkness). He is also the brother (or maybe son?) of Hypnos (The Sleeper). Interesting, another name for Ikelos is Phobetor. Sound familiar? The first lead we have on where to find this item is PHOBOS, the moon of Mars. This could potentially be either the Fear's Embrace or The Coming War missions. I've run through them both a few times today with friends looking for secrets, and they seem to be full of them. There are several doors that never open during the Phobos missions (particularly the door in the Oryx boss fight room) and there are lots of scannable items as well. That being said, I have no idea why a Rasputin fusion core would be in a Cabal base on Phobos... but it's worth a shot!
The second line references the Ishtar Archives, as well as the 11th Labor of Hercules. More Greek Mythology! The 11th labor is Hercules' task to steal the Golden Apples of the Hesperides. The story goes that he asks Atlas to get the apples for him, and in the meantime he has to hold up the Earth. When Atlas comes back with the Apples, Hercules has to trick Atlas into holding the Earth up while he adjusts his shoulderpads, at which point he runs off with the apples himself. Hercules is a jerk! Anyway, this line also says the GA (Golden Apple, or perhaps Golden Age Relic?) is in the Ishtar Archives. Definitely a strong candidate for the Fusion Core's location.
So yeah, there it is! We just need to find this fusion core and the Sleeper Simulant could be ours. BUNGIE PLS, GIVE ISHTAR ARCHIVES/COMING WAR DAILY HEROICS.
WE DID IT REDDI- I mean... Bungie.net :)
[b]TL;DR[/b] Destiny uses a series of invisible quest-tracking items that tell the game what to do next. Each DVALIN relic has one of these attached, and each one tells the game to drop the next one (which is why they always drop in the same order and you can't get two at the same time). The IKALOS Fusion Core has one of these tracker items attached to it as well, which indicates that it is the 5th and final relic needed to kick off the much anticipated quest for the Sleeper Simulant!
Also keep this in mind... Bungie told the Basketball Court guys they were wasting their time after ONE DAY. They haven't told us that, which I think means THIS GUN IS AVAILABLE NOW. [b]EDIT: LOL SO MUCH FOR THAT IDEA.[/b][/spoiler]
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I have found the sleeper Simulant! After you hand in the reassembled fusion core to Banshee-4, all you have to do is wait for the daily reset! Yes, you heard that right, you have to wait for the daily reset. Go back to Banshee the next day, he will give you an actual exotic labelled quest, "The Sleeper Stirs" which is a light level 280 variant of the S.A.B.E.R strike. Defeat the boss and then return to Banshee to claim your Sleeper!
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Sleeper simulant means if you try the quest, then it will simulant you to sleep until you receive the gun.
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4 RisposteWait for it...Wait for it...Wait for it...omg I made it in the toaster! YES! I HAVE BECOME TOAST! Oh wait I was playing destiny guess I forgot what with all the ridiculousness going on here...but seriously I waited on the mission to magically appear, waited hours on the stupid warsats, now I have to wait on banshee? If you hated grinding before well now you get to grind then wait...didn't we tell you guys to fire that dude with all the terrible ideas last year? My guardian is going to get this gun then use it to shoot herself in the face, then I'm going to do what the guy that my ghost chose before me did and refuse to wake back up...yup the exceptional stasis guy had the right idea, not worth it...
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So im guessing your upset that everything you posted was wrong? GG go cry somewhere else
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7 RisposteGuys, are you really that naiv to think that a Publisher puts a secret / puzzle into a game that would be that hard to solve? That would be counter-productive. Most secrets, quests and other new stuff have a time-based component / barrier - why should it be different with the Sleeper Simulant quest? Instead of starting a gold rush fever based on wild theories, you should sit back, think about the basic game mechanics present and wait for the next quest step to be released / opened. I had the right strategy - collect the 4 Dvalin-Relicts, sit back and wait for the mission to be online. Some of you guys are waisting a bit to much time in front of your consoles. Get out, grab some fresh air - your brains will be thankful.
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It is a shame how the quest happened. Some explanation from Ghost would have helped. Would be surprised if this is the only stage. I imagine there will be more!
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It's gone from dreadful RNG to quest line objective based rewards. That's what they said would happen pre release to TTK I don't understand why you're so salty. It was obvious. Good effort though for finding what you did
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4 RisposteBESURETODRINKYOUROVALTINE
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This is the actual meaning of earning.
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I liked this post until the edit. You're annoying. It was set to come out of the 7th. Probably will be back on the 7th of every month. Did you know 7 is Bungie's favorite You were cooler with your spinfoil hat on. Bye bye.
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This is why Bungie has matured their game in a lot of ways. They're giving guardians the opportunity to earn the best weapons the game has to offer. Ghorn, for instance, was sold very early on in the game. The weapon was so controversial they didn't sell it again until year two, where its ultimate and inevitable demise would happen a week later.People put in thousands of hours and never once "earned" it. (Earned meaning by some chance you were lucky enough to get it as A RANDOM DROP THAT REQUIRES NO SKILL) They're taking the approach that the best weapons can be earned through a quest. Not some BS random drop loot system. It's well balanced and gives everyone the opportunity to obtain it. Sure, some weapons are still dropped by random means, but it's better than logging 1000 hours and not getting the one exotic you want dearly.
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6 RisposteLol someone is salty they didnt guess the questline right.
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Could anyone assist me in completing the quest I'm stuck on Shadow Fall! Gt is MoroseDragon
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37 RisposteThis guy has fake information lmao "dismantle heavy weapons" troll
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11 RisposteCan someone bump this, BUT ONLY BUMP ONCE! I DON'T WANT (Warhammer) 40K REPLIES!
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I was keeping up on the reddit posts about the sleeper for a few weeks now. I feel like a dumbass thinking it wasn't gated. What it could have been...
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2 RisposteIs it me or is it like impossible to now get the Warsat on Mars? I've literally spent 2 hours wandering round that boring bloody rock looking for one and getting endless "eliminate the targets" instead. Sure its a Bungie conspiracy. I mean at least do a tie in with 20th Century Fox and give me some stuff to watch from "The Martian"
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(>'.')> <('.'<) (^'.'^) <('.')> (v'.'v) ^('.')> <('.')^ (v'.')> <('.'v) (v'.'^) (^'.'v) ( '.') ('.' ) [spoiler]You have been greeted by Dancing Kirby[/spoiler] (x.x) rip
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Don't worry it's gonna get worse with these silver packs
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1 RispondiSnowflakes; melted.
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Whiney as h. This whole gaming community.
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11 RisposteHey guys! Here is my full video guide for the sleeper simulant quest! Enjoy :)!
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If i cant complete the ikelos core today itll still be in my inventory right?
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Haha no one gives a damn
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3 RisposteAnd had it been available from day 1 people would have had it that very day (or first week). Instead of this post you'd be crying for a SS nerf. Get real, they had to do it this way or they're would have been no mystery and the weapon would be as annoying as Thorn and as useless as the nerfed Vex after all the try-hards and nerf kiddos experienced it.