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O.P. Here
Well, you gone done it. Your sub-post has more likes than my Original Post. Not by much, but I will acknowledge you.
You make some really good points. A few of them I really agree with, on the contrary.
You talked about me being "adversarial" ; that is quite true. But I have little choice.
There are some things that happen in this game, that are "negative" that are all Bungie's fault.
There is no denying it. And they get away with it.
Other things, I can admit; are far more personal. On the level, of the player, specifically.
Such as Three of Coins. And Black Spindle.
The Year 1 Lockout is not one such thing. I feel hypocritical to go "all-guns-blazing" on only select topics.
Three of Coins has already been nerfed. I assume Black Spindle is next week.
My out-cry has gotten me, and my supporters no where. But at least we screamed at our loudest.
No regrets there.
While I could represent myself more clear, as I am now, in original posts, not everyone understand that way.
Many are ignorant of these forums. Some on the forums have no voice.
Being passionate, blunt, and directly confrontational brings those ignorant and voiceless together.
They are probably the ones most affected.
It's not the best way to handle things, but at least we are heard. We are not ignored.
That is what is counted. I just wish the end result was more favorable.
Lost Sols and Company are heavily regarded people from FEEDBACK.
They chat openly with Cosmo and other Bungie Employees from the support base they garner.
More than once they have been temp-banned for this, as they are very persuasive, and like me, do NOT give up.
As for being spoiled, or elitist; I must fully disagree.
While my grimoire score is almost 4600, and I already have Touch of Malice ... I am not an elitist.
However, I love the game. Every part of it. EXCEPT for times I feel I've been 'had' or 'cheated.'
I have felt as such lately, and my only recourse aside from 'just taking it' ; is lifting my voice.
I am not the best player, but I try very hard to earn everything I have in this game.
I am passionate, I don't give up, and I keep going.
It isn't superiority or gains that drive me. I just want Bungie to know, that they can't please everyone.
What they change to affect one side, will always leave the other in the same position.
When they cater to those who will be negatively affected by things such as Three of Coins and Spindle...
They equally disappoint the others, such as myself, who are already on the level they are taking away.
However, I agree with a lot of your points. I can only hope my response to you is just as supported.
I did, after all, take a lot of time to reply back to you.
I felt it only appropriate, as you indulged so much of your own time to me.
~Mouse
[u][b]FINAL RESPONSE TO THREAD IN GENERAL :[/b]
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I feel this post has served its purpose.
Silvermoon has responded to me quite well, and even has a little more support than my original post. Go figure lol. Bad day for me.
However, I spent a lot of time replying back to him, also. I'd like to at least be given a chance to defend my words.
So I'd ask that you all click his "replies" and read the one that I gave to him. It best sums up the finality of this post.
For those who are new : I, and a great many others, feel dissatisfied with the overall choices Bungie has been making.
Specifically the Year 1 Lockout, Three of Coins, and Black Spindle.
But I feel the argument is concluded. Silvermoon's reply, and my subsequent reply to him, end this discussion.
I appreciate everyone's time, and the thousands of votes and hundreds of replies given to this thread.
Cheers, comrades.
After all, even if I'm a hot-headed renegade, I'm only here because of you guys.
~Mouse
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#Destiny
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89 Risposte[spoiler]Bungie, you are a veteran company, and a veteran developer.[/spoiler]Granted, but they are extremely new to this whole loot dropping and scaled power level thing. They've literally never done it before Destiny. [spoiler]I don't even have to tell you about FEEDBACK forums. There is so much hatred because of what you have done, you don't reply to anything unless it passes your PR Checklist. But how can you NOT know that you can't make your players pay for your mistakes?[/spoiler]They aren't "making their players pay for their mistakes". They made a mistake, admitted it, and said they were going to fix it. You're not supposed to be mad when someone admits a mistake and tries to fix it. That's honesty. [spoiler]Seriously, you should have tested THREE OF COINS extensively before releasing it. You should have known we'd go for the cheese. You make this game a random grind-fest. OF COURSE WE ARE GOING FOR THE CHEESE.[/spoiler]Yes. We will. We did. They should have. They didn't. [spoiler]Even you know about the failed grind. That's why Year 2 players get a FREE PASS to catch up. So here is my point. You need to man up and accept your mistake. You must say "hey, we messed up, it's our fault, we pay the price" YOU DONT SAY "damn, that's a bug, we'll make you all suffer now, and it's probably your fault too" NO NO NO NO NO NO NO[/spoiler]They aren't "making us suffer". No one is " paying the price". This isn't a competition between you and Bungie where one must suffer for the other's mistakes for the sake of "fairness". Bungie made a game. They realized some of the rules were broken, so they want to fix them. Games get fixed. [spoiler]Three Of Coins stays exactly the same way. Deal with it Bungie. Accept your loss. Don't make us pay. How about you just make some new exotics that can only be obtained by objectives. Yeah you gotta work harder, but that's what you get for -blam!-ing up Three Of Coins. Not us.[/spoiler]You're pretty adversarial, huh? I sure hope you aren't too offended when I repeat what I said above. Bungie is not your opponent. They don't have to suffer for the sake of "fairness". They are the referee. [spoiler]Also, the Black Spindle fiasco. What the -blam!- did you expect? LFG sites have had more hatred for getting that weapon than the Gjallarhorn Raid days. You have no idea what we went through to get it.[/spoiler]It wasn't that bad. Had a couple guys on my friends list that I don't normally play with invite me to go with them. Got it on the third try. [spoiler]-blam!- your messed up stats. YOU GUYS EAT THAT DICK. Don't make us swallow your nerf-cock because you -blam!-ed up. Let us have our weapon, let you guys have your bad day, and leave us alone.[/spoiler]It isn't a bad day for them if you get a good gun. It [b][u]is[/u][/b] a bug though. The gun will still be great at 290 attack. [spoiler]You can make sure the next weapon comes out right.[/spoiler]I'm sure they will. The problem is, this gun is probably still available. It wouldn't be fair if they let us keep ours at 310 but made the rest drop at 290. People would be screaming for 310 Black Spindles only for that damn raid (like they already are even though it isn't necessary at all). [spoiler]Please, please, if you're reading this, like to keep this trending, bump, and ALSO SUPPORT the other threads with petitions. It was already too much damage to this game the way they released TTK, and the BETA that was Year 1.[/spoiler]Honestly, I wish I could reply without bumping (sage, sage, sage). You think Bungie is being "punished" by letting their players have stuff they aren't supposed to. You want them to suffer for no discernable reason. You want to blow through content with glitched guns and Exotics obtained by killing the same enemies over and over again. You are contributing to the attitudes of elitism, condescension, and Bungie band wagon hating. I'm glad they fix their game. You should be too. [spoiler]Now they are going to MAKE US PAY for THEIR "CRIMES". No, I have always been an anti-bungie-vision person. But I always continue to play the game.[/spoiler]I can tell. Your contempt is quite obvious. But I'm telling you right now, they don't care. They aren't your enemy. They're the referee. They want you to have fun playing the game. But. They don't want people to be excluded because they didn't get Black Spindle the first day. They don't want Exotics to be easily farmed. They don't want bugs that make guns drop at the current max when they aren't supposed to do that. [spoiler]But if you give us a spanking and tell us we are a bad boy because YOU -blam!-ED UP. I'm going to flip shit.[/spoiler]No one is spanking you. You're acting like an entitled child who had their toy taken away by mommy. But you aren't one. At the very least, I will assume you are a (relatively) mature human being who understands what it means to abide by rules and knows why we have them in the first place. You know why the referee rules against your favorite team when they do something wrong. Bungie is fixing their game. They are not punishing anyone. They are not laughing maniacally in the command center "a-ha-ha look what I have done to my players now!" They are not getting flogged or losing sleep because something good happened to you. [spoiler]And I'm bringing Lost Sols and company with me. :([/spoiler]Well, having never met them, I can't say whether that's a loss to the Destiny community. I can say the forums could do with a good deal less of your self-victimizing adversarial posting though.
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Stop with the nerfing and start fixing your damn RNG system.
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You lost me at hello. Don't need a story book
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Nerf nerfing. Buff everything.
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Let's take a step back and realize most of these nerfs aren't the product of Bungie themselves but the community. People scream for nerfs on literally every bit of play in this game: Auto rifles, handcannons, bosses, the list goes on and on but those nerfs were a response to the community. We have no one to blame but ourselves for most of the nerfs in Destiny and I doubt this is going to change.
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Are people seriously mad about the 3 of coins thing? You guys don't think it was a little bit ridiculous?
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Year 1 Lockout is bad, Agreed. But 3 of coins and a 310 spindle.. you guys just want it too easy. You got something that advanced your gear faster than they inteded, they make adjustments and you get mad. They absolutely should have tested better, but that doesn't mean you should get to keep what they didn't intend for you to have so quickly. I've got the spindle and did my fair share of draksis. Honestly draksis is a boring way to get exotics... the spindle was a nice reward but if they didn't intend it to be 310, then fine take my 1 light level away, I'll get it back soon.
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2 Risposte3 of coins was a good change, I'd rather earn my exotics over time then grind them all in a few hours then come crying about how there's nothing to do
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7 RisposteOh no they patched a cheese Whatever will you do
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2 RisposteModificato da Coyote_x_Starrk: 9/24/2015 8:29:18 PMHOW DARE THEY FIX THEIR GAME!!! HOW DARE THEY FIX EXPLOITS!!! HOW DARE THEY FIX BUGS!!!! DOWN WITH DEEJ!!! DOWN WITH COZMO!!!! [spoiler]Grow the hell up. [/spoiler]
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2 RisposteAnyone saying things dont need to be nerfed need to grow up. You come off as whiny little brats.
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1 Rispondimade my final edits to the thread
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Quit. That'll show em you're not just a self absorbed blowhard. If you don't then obviously every other word you type is lie.
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Did nobody else pick up on the small point that the current max is 310?
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i sure hope you quit this game soon
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1 RispondiNeed a tissue?
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1 RispondiI always call bungie "bungay" when they made d**k moves like this
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2 RisposteBravo i am glad someone spoke up beaides me They say the spindle at 310 was their mistake, Instead of admitting.they scrwwed up they are screwing us out of light Earned Its bs man i swear we pay for their.mistakes,for the game and for our time put in
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3 RisposteBungie takes MONTHS to patch things that harm players But something that benefits them? NOPE CAN'T HAVE THAT!! NO NO NO NO!! PATCH PATCH PATCH!
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I found everything fine? I think bungie is doing what needs to be done
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Just children who don't understand balance and rebalance....what truly needs balanced is the amount of cryhards in the forums looking for ANYTHING to cry about.....
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I have never enjoyed a single nerf this game has seen for pvp. I wish the nerfs were all removed and the buffs stayed. That'd be some fun crucible.
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Ummm no
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I'm not worried about the 3oC change, but the Spindle change is unneeded. Oh, no! raid level enemies drop raid level gear! To the nerfmobile!
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