It has become very apparent (or should be by now at least); that Bungie honestly believes that their base of players are so ignorant, so mentally feeble, that they can do or say whatever they want in their chase for raw cash, that they don't even have to checks back on promises that they've made to us in regards to this game. Anyone remember this from December? I do. It was when we were having a stroke about The Dark Blows dropping, and we all found out at the time that the damage cap was being raised on TDB weapons, but that our beloved VoG and base game weapons were being left behind. [quote][b]Bungie Weekly Update 12/04/2014:[/b] by DeeJ "In the months to come, your quest to become more powerful will have more avenues that lead to satisfaction. The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete. Since the reveal, we’ve read a lot of ideas for how this could have been done better. [b][i][u]Your feedback is clear: The time you have invested in your stuff should be respected."[/u][/i][/b][/quote] Now; this has been repeated many times in the last few days on these Forums, and for very justifiable reasons. With the Weekly Letdown message from DeeJ, it has come to light in a newly blatant manner that Bungie doesn't even put weight into their own words. They say that they listen. They say that they understand our desires. They might actually listen and understand, but with the Updates that come around like the one from this past [url=https://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---08202015/en/News/News?aid=13414]Thursday,[/url] Bungie has proven that they just don't care what we (as their base of players) want to see in this game. We're the ones slogging through the repetitive environments, content, and grinding out hundreds of hours for weapons that Bungie then takes away or neuters regardless of the imbalances that it creates in the game. But yet they still do not heed the words of the experienced players when issues are brought to light. In fact; even though Bungie's devs and "Community Managers" barely play this game, they somehow think that the desires and issues that we face every hour we're logged into their latest mistake are of no consequence, or that it's all reverse psychology and we (for some reason) [b][i]want[/i][/b] all of our progress and hard work in their game erased every year. The quote that I laid down at the top of this post [b]needs to be addressed[/b], Bungie; especially in light of the smack-to-the-face that you gave us on Thursday. It is now more apparent than ever that you're blatantly lying to your fans and players. It has become painfully obvious that our satisfaction with your product is inconsequential in your drive for higher revenues and share prices. There are always going to be hardcore fans who will always believe that Bungie can do no wrong, and that my words are just the bitter ranting of the ignorant. There's no cure for this, and you can't fix stupid, so these must be ignored as the blind -fanboy-ism's that they are. But think about this nest thought for a second, Bungie. When you're marketing for The Taken King, and your marketing (in all of its flashy glory) attracts a new potential player into your cash-grab, what also goes along with that marketing? You direct those potential new players, and existing Casual players to this site. To these Forums. While you may be able to ignore our time/grind honed issues and complaints; potential new players and Casual players that you're trying to rope into buying TTK won't ignore this. In this age of digital-everything, consumer reviews are everything. People plan and make final purchasing decisions based on existing customer feedback. Feedback that is blistering and holding you over the coals on your own Forums, Amazon, Reddit, 4Chan, Gameinformer's Forums, GameSpot's forums, etc. You've made such a debacle of the updates and lack of direction of this game, that you can't find a good review of your product of performance anywhere. If we can't reach you in your Developer's Ivory Tower, if our issues are so easily disregarded; the loss of potential sales/revenue by what were once future customers and Casual Gamers might. What you are doing to your players is wrong, Bungie. The way you're treating us, lying to us, and treating us like ignorant buffoons; it's very reminiscent of the crash of the Gaming Industry at the end of the 1980's and early 1990's. Players simply quit buying games for a 3+ year period because of the abuses dealt to the players by the industry; and it took some very creative restructuring of the industry led by Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, and a number of high-caliber developers in order to turn it back around and resurrect a dead industry. While your actions towards us may not crash the entire industry again, it could very well just crash you as a company. You need to fix this game, Bungie. You need to fix yourselves, and you need to treat your players with the respect and devotion that we are so readily willing to devote to you. If not, we'll simply leave. In fact, a majority of us already have. That much is readily apparent by your lack of population numbers that most developers trip over themselves to brag about. From launch in 2014 to January of 2015, we couldn't get away from your population numbers in every single Weekly Update. You sold 13 million copies of Destiny across four systems. But as of January, the last number we heard was that you only still have 3 million active accounts. That's a 75% population drop in five (5) months. If nothing else will get through to you, maybe your own spreadsheets might. But something has to change, Bungie. Not the changes that you're currently planning either, but real, honest change from the inside out. Because your players are fed up with your abuses, and we're becoming former-players. More and more of us by the day. All because you ignore us and treat us like we have no idea what we're talking about. Edit = [url=http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/08/26/through-the-fire-how-destiny-39-s-first-year-shaped-the-future.aspx]GameInformer "exclusive" video from Bungie.[/url] In it, they try to address all of the hatred they're receiving, and even had the balls to attempt to call this an "apology". My favorite line in the video: "We understand that they want to play the game the way they want to play it. We didn't exactly plan for that." Are you kidding me, Bungie? This is just... I can't... I am actually at a loss for words to describe my emotions right now. I make my posts because I see the potential that Destiny has. I care about what this game [i]could so easily be[/i] and how great it would be if that potential was realized. But I think I just felt the will to care... die. The last vestige of respect I have/had for Bungie just took its last breath. Good game, Bungie. Edit 2 = This whole OP is now on [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3j33hn/lies_hypocrisy_no_accountability_the_bungie/]Reddit.[/url]