This is a fallacy created by the Liberal left. The constitution has no such amendment or clause. Their is a clause that states within the following[i]: [b]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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This is known as the first amendment. I understand most of you have never been taught about the Constitution in school. The little bit you have likely been taught has been corrupted and warped to fit some agenda. As you can see this declares one simple thing. The federal government cannot choose one religion over another. It does not state that religion is to be separate from legislating. If an individual legislates without taking into account the religious beliefs of their constituents, what exactly are they representing?
The fact of the matter is this. The first amendment protects every persons individual right to free expression of their religion, including politicians. Therefore any discussion on religion not being a part of legislation is foolhardy at best. Religion has every right to be a part of politics as science. Why? Because just as religion science has just as many "believers" so to speak.
tldr; the first amendment does not separate religion from politics, it protects other religions from being ruled by one singular religion. Thus stopping any chance of the pope regaining control of the Americas. ( which was the actual purpose of that specific clause )
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1 RispondiIt's nice a conservative looks along the lines of the constitution for us. Now what was that one about right to bear arms? Something about [u]well regulated militia [/u] but you guys tend to ignore it for your self arming agendas
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3 RisposteModificato da Der Todesengel: 8/31/2015 12:11:32 PM[quote]Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists The Final Letter, as Sent To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut. Gentlemen The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing. Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem. Th Jefferson Jan. 1. 1802.[/quote] This is where the sacred "Wall of Separation" came from and it only applies insomuch as Congress cannot legislate concerning religions or the free practice thereof. It has been abused to the point of ridiculousness to mean all religion must be removed from all public institutions, which it clearly does not. It is written to keep the State out of religion, not the contrary. - Der
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I'm getting real tired of these Christian Fascists. Just move to Iran if you want to live in a Theocracy so badly.
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4 Rispostelets get something straight christianity isnt even that good
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Lets get something str8...
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People are going to make decisions based on their world view. Deal with it.
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10 RisposteModificato da ScarceTripod: 8/20/2015 2:52:47 PMIt's not a fallacy created by the left. The interpretation is in Jefferson's own writing. The amendment creates a "wall of separation between church and state." Read for yourself: http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
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6 RisposteI lol'd. Politicians are allowed to have their religion but their religions need to be kept to themselves. Religion has no place in politics, period. If part of your platform as a candidate for any political office is "for god" or "because god told me to" you should be immediately disqualified. Sorry, Christians, you don't own this country.
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1 RispondiMaking a law in favor of a religion is bound to clash with another secular law or a law in favor of another religion
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I would like to think that most religious people still understand the need to separate religion from politics. I don't want my senator voting based on what his God told him (or mayors praying away potholes).
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Religion has no place in politics. This has been established time and time again. This is a new level of stupid, even for you.
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5 RisposteModificato da Capiton Render: 8/20/2015 3:34:59 PM[quote]the pope regaining control of the Americas.[/quote] Ughhhhh wot? [quote]Religion has every right to be a part of politics as science.[/quote] Double wat
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2 RisposteYes, the first amendment separates church and state. Otherwise, we'd be right back where we came from; religious oppression. Hardly any of the Founding Fathers were christian anyways
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2 Risposteand this is why people laugh at America religious fcktards everywhere
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11 RisposteModificato da beowulf 678: 8/20/2015 2:51:45 PMIn Jefferson's words: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
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9 RisposteYou do realize the Founding Fathers were secularists right?
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8 RisposteExcept by making legislation based upon your religious belief, you [i]are[/i] "respecting an establishment of religion" because you're inherently saying that your religion should be the law of the land. This is an example of a singular religion ruling over other religions, as you said in your tl;dr.
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So true.
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3 RisposteThe 1st amendment is a two way road, if you're gonna keep government out of religion then you're gonna keep your religion out of my government. If you legislate your religion it violates the first amendment bc you are forcing your region on others.
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1 RispondiGrampa pls
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25 RisposteYou couldn't be more wrong. The moment religious ideas enter legislation you are violating someone else's rights by imposing a certain religions ideas upon those that may not believe in the same ideology. Shall not respect or prohibit. That pretty much keeps them separate.
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Why haven't you drank Doritos yet?
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First of all, yes there most certainly is such a thing as separation of church and state, so nice clickbait. Secondly, are you against secularism or a secular society? I want to know your specific view on this.