This about sums up some of the vulgar messages Dames of Destiny received. I rarely make posts on this forum but today I felt the need to.
Having played with a few Dames on LFG and asking them about their clan so I could have [b]an informed opinion[/b] I found out what the Dames of Destiny are all about.
It takes no longer than 10 mins of scrolling this forum to see that women by a portion of this community are regularly belittled and receive a substantial amount of abuse. That is not to say all the community do, but there is a portion. Dames of Destiny (from my understanding) was created so women had an environment where they could play the game without the risk of receiving abusive comments. Not only this, they also provide a safe environment for younger female players to play free from abuse or bigotry.
I cannot understand why people are playing the sexist card in relation to them or defending some of the comments expressed by certain individuals of the community.
If this community was filled with racist remarks would you be surprised to see clans appear that were free from racism?
I have seen several clans created which are under 16's because they feel safer playing with their age group than a more mature player is this wrong?
My clan is UK based only because logistically it is easier to play with UK based players. Are you feeling aggrieved by this?
I also play with fellow veterans in veteran only clans because they provide a relaxed environment where members can speak freely knowing other members have shared the same experiences. Is that unacceptable as well?
Personally i'm disgusted by the comments i've read and i'm well aware it's a small minority who were involved. This community has done some great things when we've come together. Standing up against bigotry should be one.
[b]Before I get the usual 'white knight' and 'wannabe hero' comments, I wouldn't class myself as either. Having served in both Afghanistan and Iraq however, I believe in standing up against bigotry even in the face of adversity.[/b]
I'm also aware that the Dames of Destiny are more than capable of defending themselves but it doesn't mean we as a community should stand by.
[b][i]Be strong enough to stand alone, be yourself enough to stand apart, but be wise enough to stand together when the time comes[/i]
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[b]Edit - [/b][i]Just to make clear to some of you who are jumping to false presumptions, not once in my post have I mentioned the twitch feed regarding wishyouluck. Take two seconds to look through this post and you will several comments telling the dames to go suck something. This post and a lot of my previous are anit-bigotry in all forms. Regardless if I witness homophobia, racism, sexism etc. If you take two minutes to have a look at them you will see this. It just so happens that the Dames are relevant at this moment in time and i'm disgusted by some of the comments I have read.[/i]
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When I heard what went down during the stream I was disgusted. In no way shape or form is this ever exceptable. There is slot I could say about the scum bags who made these comments but I will no waste my breath. These ass clowns should be shamed and their destiny accounts banned and that is real talk. To the Dames I say this, I am sorry that we have to share virtual space with these people and I am appauled that people like this exist. Signed Myself and the other 40 members of Destined to Kill.
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2 RisposteYou served in a pointless war.
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Read the post. Completely agree. And most importantly: [spoiler]Thank you for your service :)[/spoiler]
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Thank you for your service and your intelligent words! It's refreshing to see some good, non-hateful people on these forums c
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4 RisposteModificato da AristonSparta: 8/1/2015 3:00:07 PMThe real problem is people's character. Edit for disrespect (my apologies) Iraq was oil/petro dollar and [destabilizing Iraq]. Afghanistan is for the heroine production and a money pit. Edit: girls don't need a "safe environment" any more than anyone else, and it is silly to assume they need one.
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1 RispondiWelcome to the jungle We've got fun 'n' games We got everything you want Honey, we know the names We are the people that can find Whatever you may need If you got the money, honey We got your disease [CHORUS:] In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your knees, knees I wanna watch you bleed Welcome to the jungle We take it day by day If you want it you're gonna bleed But it's the price you pay And you're a very sexy girl That's very hard to please You can taste the bright lights But you won't get them for free In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Feel my, my, my serpentine I, I wanna hear you scream Welcome to the jungle It gets worse here everyday Ya learn ta live like an animal In the jungle where we play If you got a hunger for what you see You'll take it eventually You can have anything you want But you better not take it from me [CHORUS] And when you're high you never Ever want to come down, YEAH! You know where you are You're in the jungle baby You're gonna die In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your knees, knees In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Feel my, my, my serpentine In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your knees, knees In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Watch it bring you to your It' gonna bring you down-HA!
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Fück yourself
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Who cares. this is old news, get over it.
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Modificato da Mythic x Recon: 8/1/2015 2:51:44 PMOk, so note, dames are a female only clan. Got it. Now, if any male tried to make an all male clan, there'd be a lawsuit and charges pressed. >.> am i wrong? I've seen it already. I'm just putting it out there, no clans should have restrictions on things we cannot change, especially pertaining to gender. No, I am not a male supremacist, i see all as equal and i try to be fair. I have my own small 'clan' as you wish to call it or whatever, and the only thing i judge any1 by is a minimal age (i acknowledge that i can be rather irritable around children of young age) and the player's skill level. Male or female it does not matter. It should always be a level playing field rather than exclusively excluding a rather large population. It seems as if only males are bashed for sexism It seems only whites are blamed for racism It seems only blacks are blamed for crime I could keep going on and on, but i'll save my fingers their energy, lol. Mini rant over.
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8 RisposteGuys here tell other guys to suck their dicks ... so guys told a bunch of girls to suck their dicks ... idk about you but that sounds like equality to me
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14 RisposteSo basically this thread sumed up... "sexism is a bad thing, women should be treated equally. So you cant swear at them, or anything you would do with another bloke (cause their women ya know) Also women should be our equals, now I'm writing this because they're too sensitive and weak to defend themselves" P.s "white knight armor off, anyone think this is gonna get me laid?"
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1 RispondiI agree completely with you here, but I'd just like to state this fact. Had this been a clan of men getting all this hatred, nobody would have given a flying -blam!-. Yes that means you so yes I do believe you are playing, "white knight ". Here because you wouldn't have said a thing had it been guys instead of girls.
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1 RispondiYou know that comment you quoted for your thread title was aimed at deej and not the DoD right?
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I've been playing raids with randoms and not once have I been offended. I have a mic and talk and they have all been happy to play with a girl who can hold her own and kick ass. If you dish it out be prepared to get it back! Seriously girls need to stop be all woe is me. Makes the rest of us look weak. If a guy says suck my dick say I don't put small things in my mouth. If they are making too crude of comments (whatever that is..) just leave and find another group!
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White man came across the sea He brought us pain and misery He killed our tribes killed our creed He took our game for his own need We fought him hard we fought him well Out on the plains we gave him hell But many came too much for Cree Oh will we ever be set free? Riding through dust clouds and barren wastes Galloping hard on the plains Chasing the redskins back to their holes Fighting them at their own game Murder for freedom the stab in the back Women and children are cowards attack Run to the hills, run for your lives Run to the hills, run for your lives Soldier blue in the barren wastes Hunting and killing their game -blam!- the women and wasting the men The only good Indians are tame Selling them whiskey and taking their gold Enslaving the young and destroying the old Run to the hills, run for your lives [repeat to end]
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Exactly it's still something that shouldn't be happening in the community, one player I play with regular was getting racist comments about him being part of Isis ETc cos his name Ismael even though he Mexican
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Nice post
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Well said man
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In reality what did people expect? You have remnants of Halo players in this game. The most toxic of players.
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4 RisposteMake the world smaller so our light casts no shadows. Round out every sharp edge and corner so our light casts no shadows Remove everybody in the way so our light casts no shadows And now we are blind, to drown in the grey because our light casts no shadows.
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3 RisposteWomen are very mean. They always take advantage of me and break my heart by cheating on me when I do my best to be the best boyfriend possible and to support our future. I don't get it.
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In all honesty, I don't care weather there are groups that take in a certain player base and 'protect' those groups of players. I usually play with my mic off, but I can still hear the abuse that both me and my younger peers get. Such as people thinking I'm a girl and wanting to kick me before I mess stuff up ( huh?) and people calling out on the younger population and telling them to leave before they ruin the team. My brother told me how some guy was all over this kid who was new to raiding (he told me this kid just bullied the noob the ENTIRE raid). Then my brother told this kid to shut up and be respectful ( didn't say it that way but don't want ninjas on me). So what will I do with all these sexist and racist thing that are going about? Join the martyred. I have recently been helping some noobs through the story missions and have put in my application to the dames of destiny ( yes I'm a chik, but grow up). We need to help those who are hurting whether it is by race, sex, or age. We can no longer stay silent. We need to speak up.
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1 RispondiI hate all women. Except dames of destiny. They are great.
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But I've gotten worse than suck my balls and since I never felt the need to join the clan no one gives a damm?
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5 RisposteModificato da Raven: 8/1/2015 11:25:06 AMPretty sure all sexes get treated badly over the Internet. It's pretty hard to post anything on here without being torn apart for something. This is nothing new. So what makes the females different or so much more special that we need everyone up in arms about it? Shouldn't we be saying the negativity towards others in general is the problem not just towards them? All these posts in turn create more tension and separation rather than addressing the real issue.
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The thing is in online gaming u don't see anyone face to face so some people say what ever they want for a cheap laugh and don't feel bad cause they don't have to look the person in the eye it will happen everywhere there's nothing u can do about it