This about sums up some of the vulgar messages Dames of Destiny received. I rarely make posts on this forum but today I felt the need to.
Having played with a few Dames on LFG and asking them about their clan so I could have [b]an informed opinion[/b] I found out what the Dames of Destiny are all about.
It takes no longer than 10 mins of scrolling this forum to see that women by a portion of this community are regularly belittled and receive a substantial amount of abuse. That is not to say all the community do, but there is a portion. Dames of Destiny (from my understanding) was created so women had an environment where they could play the game without the risk of receiving abusive comments. Not only this, they also provide a safe environment for younger female players to play free from abuse or bigotry.
I cannot understand why people are playing the sexist card in relation to them or defending some of the comments expressed by certain individuals of the community.
If this community was filled with racist remarks would you be surprised to see clans appear that were free from racism?
I have seen several clans created which are under 16's because they feel safer playing with their age group than a more mature player is this wrong?
My clan is UK based only because logistically it is easier to play with UK based players. Are you feeling aggrieved by this?
I also play with fellow veterans in veteran only clans because they provide a relaxed environment where members can speak freely knowing other members have shared the same experiences. Is that unacceptable as well?
Personally i'm disgusted by the comments i've read and i'm well aware it's a small minority who were involved. This community has done some great things when we've come together. Standing up against bigotry should be one.
[b]Before I get the usual 'white knight' and 'wannabe hero' comments, I wouldn't class myself as either. Having served in both Afghanistan and Iraq however, I believe in standing up against bigotry even in the face of adversity.[/b]
I'm also aware that the Dames of Destiny are more than capable of defending themselves but it doesn't mean we as a community should stand by.
[b][i]Be strong enough to stand alone, be yourself enough to stand apart, but be wise enough to stand together when the time comes[/i]
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[b]Edit - [/b][i]Just to make clear to some of you who are jumping to false presumptions, not once in my post have I mentioned the twitch feed regarding wishyouluck. Take two seconds to look through this post and you will several comments telling the dames to go suck something. This post and a lot of my previous are anit-bigotry in all forms. Regardless if I witness homophobia, racism, sexism etc. If you take two minutes to have a look at them you will see this. It just so happens that the Dames are relevant at this moment in time and i'm disgusted by some of the comments I have read.[/i]
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2 RisposteI've played dice beta and still haven't met a girl destiny gamer
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The Dames can suck my balls! [spoiler]There, I said it. It was immature for those people to say it, but it shouldn't be such a big deal. You don't even know them. Block them or mute them.[/spoiler]
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4 RisposteHe said [b]Deej[/b] not [b]Dames[/b]. Either way you're right, most people in this community are toxic as hell
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Waste of time
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Uh,why not everyone just not play with people they dont like?
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1 RispondiSad that you have served to protect this country yet everyday I wake up and see countless people abusing what you did...my advice to you? Don't bother mentioning what you have done, people are ignorant and selfish and couldn't careless...you are just throwing yourself out there to get flamed.
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Bump and thank you.
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2 RisposteWhat if i told you no one actually told the dames to suck anything.
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4 RisposteMen are better cooks anyways
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3 RisposteLook lancelot, that situation was not about the dames, most people in this community will show disrespect to anyone, that's lack of education and not sexism, they are douschebags by excellence, the same pricks who say "get gud scrub" "get rektd" "go back to the kitchen", now for most white Knights, if you insult another dude that's fine but if you insult a woman they lose their shit because it's how they might only have a chance to get female attention Fact 1, this -blam!-face joins deej and dames and says "deej suck my balls" Fact 2, the same -blam!-face "wishyouluck" tells his pets or servants (the ones he calls his savages) to enrage and harass everyone Fact 3,this is not about sexism, this is about a miserable pathetic lame dude who's followed by a bunch of lifeless virgins douschebags who serve him and feed him
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You'll find in most internet slums the treatment of women is identical. The anonymity of the internet gives many the courage to say that which they'd never say in person. You'll also equally find people playing the "they're discriminating but it's okay" card when discussing all female clans.
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What I don't understand is that when women get suck my dick messages they're all offended, but when guys get them they pass it off as just another person being an asshole
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There's a lot of ugly nerds on destiny that can't get a girlfriend and they don't know how to interact with woman. I play this game with my GF and she gets a lot of unwanted attention in the tower so I get the idea of what the dames have to go through. It's pathetic really
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Modificato da Sawk monkey: 8/1/2015 4:24:37 PMYou know what would happen if women starting making a sexist remark towards men? You'd say nothing so that in itself is sexist so stfu
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3 RisposteSexist group meets with ostracism; story at eleven.
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5 RisposteI treat everyone shit, why is that as soon as I do it to woman it's "bad" or "horrible". People say woman needed to be treated like men but this is a HUGE double standard that I have ever seen.
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6 RisposteModificato da SpankyMcSpanky: 8/1/2015 3:59:11 PMWhy do men always insist on "white knighting" for female players? You are a misogynistic pig if you think womyn can't fight their own battles and defend themselves. Go check your privilege, white male oppressor.
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8 RisposteOi, don't get mixed into, White Knight. The Dames made that clan to be exclusive and only available towards women. They should have expected hate, and now they need to deal with it. On their own. So just stay out of it and let the situation handle itself.
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@GunZnGorE Reading your post leads me to believe you are not intelligent/capable to understand others that question your skillful writing... Not thoughts... Anyone is capable to BS a certain topic, which in this case manipulates others to believe that you know what you are explaining to community about. When you use words such as limitation as feedback without explanation it identifies you as an escape artist unwilling to justify actions, which then leads me to believe that you know nothing but trigger words that the community feeds on. I applaud you for being that "White Knight" that the Dames can look up too, and when this odd war of grade school politics is over I'll be waiting for all of you in the IB/Crucible "Let's Play!"
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1 RispondiTell me what have i missed lol
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1 RispondiModificato da jonathanpride: 8/1/2015 1:59:50 PMI think all women should be treated then same as men. Women have been fighting for years to have the same rights as men so I think we need to get rid of the WNBA and merge it with the NBA. That way women can play along side men that's what they want right equality. The same goes for women who want to play football they should be aloud to play football right along side men. If they get their bones broke or suffer internal injury and die at least they know they died with equal rights.
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Well said OP. Sexism and bigotry is alive and well and apparently thriving online. :( I'm glad there are those that can recognize the situation for what it truly is and speaks out against it. Love the final quote too.
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1 RispondiHere you go.
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12 RisposteI got you homie.
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2 RisposteModificato da Cordic_Cyberpunk: 8/1/2015 3:19:14 PMi stopped at your 3rd paragraph. your 3rd paragraph is extremely sexist. So women can not be abusive to other women, only men can be abusive?? are you serious ? So men do not get abused by women ? a all women group has zero chance of any form of abusive to ever happen ?
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When I heard what went down during the stream I was disgusted. In no way shape or form is this ever exceptable. There is slot I could say about the scum bags who made these comments but I will no waste my breath. These ass clowns should be shamed and their destiny accounts banned and that is real talk. To the Dames I say this, I am sorry that we have to share virtual space with these people and I am appauled that people like this exist. Signed Myself and the other 40 members of Destined to Kill.