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Modificato da Tank_Dropper:
7/20/2015 8:20:17 PM
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Hard Light bet: Thorn dismantle
So last night, a friend and me came to a disagreement about what Bungie was saying in their 2.0 preview in regards to how the Hard Light was being changed. Instead of the two of us bickering for naught, we made it simple: whoever's wrong dismantles their Thorn. Personally, I'm curious what other people think Bungie meant when they said:
[quote]Hard Light projectiles are not affected by Damage Falloff[/quote]
So, does anyone think they were referring to every shot, or just the ricochets?
Edit #1: Well, we're trending now (which is a first for me), maybe now a Bungie employee could bless us with a clarification on the subject...
Edit #2: I guess people really are divided on the matter, I guess we'll just have to see in the weeks to come, won't we?
Edit #3: Here's the Armory for the Hard Light for those interested:
[armory]Hard Light[/armory]
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#Destiny
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A bullet is a type of projectile, regardless of ricochet or not. All bullets will not be affected by the fall off. /thread.
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2 RisposteModificato da Brick: 7/21/2015 3:14:06 AMHard Light does not fire "bullets". It fires super heated polymer rounds. That's why they refer to them as "projectiles". Hard Light will have no damage drop off, period. Edit: Why do so many people think that damage falloff has anything to do with range?? Once the weapon is out of effective range, it won't be accurate enough to hit anything, making damage falloff mean nothing.
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No damage fall off period. I'll raise you my thorn and last word. If I'm wrong, I'll make a YouTube Video of me deleting both of them.
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In the patch notes it says "hard light projectiles". It doesn't say anything about ricocheted rounds or volitile light rounds. The gun it's self has no damage fall off
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21 RisposteModificato da Guorium: 7/20/2015 5:11:31 PMI lost faith in the intelligence of majority of forum users here cuz those dimwits are hallucinating. Where da faq did it say skip projectiles have no damage falloff?! Just fking where?!
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I belive it was originally an arc elemental weapon but obviously it didn't become West it probably should have. Reguardless of which way the "debate" goes we'll all be running everything we have to see what works and what doesn't. It's actually an exciting time.
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3 RisposteI'm thinking it's just the ricochet rounds. I doubt they want hard light to function at long ranges.
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Whats dropoff and falloff?
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31 RispostePeople can't seem to read properly. Hardlight will have no damage dropoff, period. That is how they are making it more exotic and distinguishing it from other auto rifles. Projectiles are refered to the bullets being fired from the gun, not the ones bouncing off the walls. It does not mention ricochet rounds anywhere in the post. What are you people reading? You are basically putting words in Bungie's mouth if you think it only refers to the ricochet rounds.
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Projectile would suggest infinite full damage range regardless of whether it ricochets or not.
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4 RisposteModificato da A Sad Cheese: 7/20/2015 8:14:39 PMNowhere does it state "ricocheted" projectiles have no falloff, it only says "projectiles" which would mean every bullet fired, bounced or not. Really wish a bungie employee would see this and shed some light though...
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The way I see it is it will have no damage fall off but once you hit the max range of the weapon you won't get anything for your hits I think this is pretty obvious with the way they have it worded.
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3 RisposteI just dismantled mine lol
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2 RisposteIt won't have fall off at all. See, the thing about the hard light is...its a high fire rate/low damage per shot auto. You aren't going to be sniping with the thing...even with no damage fall off or increased stability. That being said, its a marshmallow shooter, its damage may increase a bit in the patch, but not a whole lot. My guess is this is why they are making it have no damage fall off...so that it will see slightly more use than it is currently seeing, which is next to none.
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1 Rispondido you have to dismantle one thorn or all of the ones in your inventory? depending on the response, this may or may not be interesting.
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The way the wrote it, it seems like whether they ricochet or not. But imho it's probably the ricochets because Volatile Light is pretty useless, so that's probably what they're doing to fix it.
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My only defense that it would be only ricochet bullets is because of the replenish perk. I thought it would be good and that it would replenish my magazine on every super cast (would be pretty good for PvP), since the description reads "This weapons magazine will be refilled when A super is cast", when it's only yours. Not saying it will or won't have falloff damage, I just expect it to be the ricochet rounds only.
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8 RisposteIt seems very very clear to me that the weapon will have no damage fallout due to range, the quote you posted literally says that. The issue here isn't that the notes were unclear, it's that people think it's going to be op and don't want it to be so they're arguing the other way.
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4 RisposteCan't believe 59 percent of the people on here can't read. Oh wait yes I can.
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The bullet is the projectile so if you take the writing literal there will be no fall off at all
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It means both the shots and the ricochet
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Richeots obviously
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1 RispondiI think option B. The hard light shoots hit scan bullets. When they bounce the bullets have travel time. This makes me think the bouncing bullets are the projectiles they're talking about.
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1 RispondiOnly ricochet because you could snipe anything with hard light if it had infinite range
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8 RisposteI believe the weapon will have no damage fall off. It just makes sense. The other thing that will make the Hard Light OP is the projectile velocity. Have you ever noticed how little delay there is between the shot and the impact? The projectiles travel like laser bolts, nearly instantly to the target. Finally the Hard Light sound effect will be more than just entertaining, it will instill fear.
