You probably didnt pqy attention but these nerfs have cone about because they are overused compared to other guns.

What I don't understand is: People here have been complaining about every gun that gets popular since the beginning of this game a year ago. It won't be no time at all before the Suros Regime becomes the new "Thorn" to gripe about. But if we put a poll up "and we did, and there were many". The majority of at least 75% would say no leave everything alone. "Even leave Thorn alone" Why wasn't this noticed? it was pretty clear info here... Is it because somebody is only skimming these forms and not paying attention to the actual truth? Not digging in deep and actually reading the forms maybe just looking at headlines? And the decision to nerf all of our coolest toys ... where in the world did that come from? It doesn't matter to me if fusion rifles receive a buff I've never use them and probably never will so goes the majority. If they actually would have listened to us everything would be left alone. And the Suros would get buff to compete with Thorn. We also wanted Hard Light to get buff. ... And Xbox got screwed on Hawkmoon. I have it on PS4 and I was actually looking forward to them receiving it. Why take the fun out of Hawkmoon? It's hard enough to master and if you can master it you deserve the reward of the occasional stacked bullets. "my bullets have stacked once or twice in four months " that made the chance of this happening fun and now that's taken away. Also it's range made it special.... Xbox did deserve to experience all of that. All this craziness is just somebody with too much time on their hands that didn't do their homework properly.

Who were the ones that got the black hammer and ice breaker nerfed then? Hmm I wonder who....

You use the thorn don't you

I mean PvE players ruined PvP so don't blame us

A Thorn fanboy had the gall to accuse me of using an aim bot the other day. I replyed saying that I just had some skill and a decent pulse rifle (The Messenger). I'm not the best at pvp but I can hold my own and hit top three more often than not. I dont usually reply to trash, but I took pleasur knowing that I could frustrat a player pigeonholed in to using Thorn. Maybe I even made him/her think about mixing things up a little. I think the difference between whiners and winners is (apart from the spelling) that winners can adapt and try and out play someone as predicable as a last rounder or Thorn fanboy. Your not going to win every time but its a dam good feeling when you get a strategy just right.

You're very stupid if u think pvp ruins pve's already easy experience These claims always go around but they're from crybabies who dont understand anything, usually with horrible accuracy and believe nightfall burns and raids are very difficult

We are happy, now that your KD is going to go below 1 because the only guns you can use are Thorn or TLW. :)

I'm going to wait and see what weapon you move to and then ask them to nerf that. Thorn and co aren't overpowered, we just all hate you so much that we want to ruining the only thing you have "achieved" in your life.

Must be a thorn/felwinters lie user we got here must suck to know a -blam- way to get cheap kills is finally getting sit the -blam!- down but I mean all you need is a red death Red death>thorn

Well seeing as pvp is the only hard and competitive thing... Yes lol pvp people will bitch because unlike stupid easy ia it needs more balance. My question is why the -blam!- are you crying about shit being nerfed for pve?! It's so -blam!-ing easy!

Destiny PvP players will always be whiners...

Whining about whining. That's a new low..

Im pretty happy about it :) seems like the game might be somewhat returning to the state it was in at launch, which i enjoyed quite a lot. [spoiler]Couldnt help but notice that your hunter is rocking a hand cannon and Ghallarhorn[/spoiler]

With that medal score, you have no right to complain about things being nerfed in pvp.

Weapons rise and fall. Tis the cycle