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Modificato da Zeta Reticulan:
6/10/2015 12:11:06 PM
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Should people have the right to refuse service to gays?
I believe a Christian muffler shop owner should have the same right to refuse service to a gay couple, as a gay lifeguard has to refuse service to a drowning Christian.
However the lifeguard would have to save the drowning victim. But I'm just pointing out that it's quite ridiculous to not serve someone just because of what sex they like.
Just a reminder: Letting a straight couple into a cafe and then not allowing a gay couple is [u]discrimination[/u].
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Christians are supposed to spread the Love of God. Coming from a Christian, I say that no, refusing device to gays is not right. We may not following their lifestyle, but we do not hate them.
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Don't be fooled people. There are people on this forum that are liars and very deceitful. Just because someone says they are Christian doesn't mean so. Not everyone thinks like this. Do not fall into the field of an elaborate trap.
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2 RisposteIn life or death situations, no. But in normal conditions? They should have the rights, it's not discrimination because there's no act against the people asking. It's just a denial of services.
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Oklahoma's Governor just passed a bill allowing priests to refuse or turn down homosexual weddings.
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4 RisposteModificato da Shelbi: 6/28/2015 11:41:44 AMI am a follower of Christ. The greatest commandment is love your neighbor like you would love yourself. Even though the commandments are dead after Jesus died on the cross I still follow that commandment to the T. Everyone deserves to be loved. My opinion on how someone lives should not matter. Jesus said "he who is without sin cast the first stone." We all deserve the same amount of love!
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12 RisposteAll Christians should be killed.
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Refusal of service is a right. As much as I disagree with it it is still their right to do so.
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no, because there's no reason to. are they willing to pay for your product/Service? yes. are they going to have gay sex in your establishment? of course not. unless one of those terms has been breached, Gay people are just another customer. in a Business, EVERYONE is a big walking stack of money known as a Customer. that means everyone is equal. let's say you run a restaurant, and a gay couple walks in doing all the usual stuff; holding hands, kissing etc., but then they order the most expensive stuff on the menu, the finest wine/champagne, and you see their wallet is properly stacked. you have the potential to make more money from the two gays than you would from the rest of your customers combined. would you refuse service? I wouldn't. I'd smile and let them get on with it, knowing they might leave a fat ass tip before they leave.
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I don't approve of it, but yes, I believe refusal of service should be a maintained right. It's their shop/business/whatever so they should be able to deny customers for whatever reasons they want. Preventing this would infringe upon their freedoms, I believe. It's not like money from a gay person is worth less to other people, so I'll take my business to them.
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If it states in their religious text that they shouldn't Serve gays, then yes. But they should also follow the other rules too.
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1 RispondiI don't think anyone should be forced to do something that directly goes against their believes however selling someone a car doesn't have anything to do with someone's sexual preference. Forcing A minister to marry a couple he doesn't believe should be married is wrong.
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Although it is wrong and businesses shouldn't practice it, they should reserve the right to reject service under any reasoning. At the end of the day, that company is still losing money for denying the service of select people
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Modificato da GiantDad: 6/28/2015 11:33:26 AMI don't think [i]anyone[/i] should ever be turned away. EDIT: I can't stand it when people are saying that gays are targeting Christians and turning them into victims. This is history repeating itself. We went through it with women's suffrage, the entire civil rights movement, and interracial marriage. We got approved all of those laws and grew stronger as a nation. But goddam, now we're all going to hell because gays can marry.
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5 RisposteGays are actively targeting and being intolerant of Christians beliefs.
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4 RisposteModificato da a clumsy scrub: 6/7/2015 1:25:31 AMSo a guy walks into your restaurant. Hes been around before, and youve come to the conclusion that hes gay. Youve seen him holding hands with a man, and the way he talks to women isnt normal for a guy. He walks up to a waitress and begins making small talk as she takes him to a seat. As a business owner, 37% of you would have the balls to walk up to this man in the middle of your restaurant and tell him to leave. You are prepared to share your belief with every customer in the place; that gays should [b]not[/b] be treated as equals. 37% of you need to get your head on straight. These people dont choose to be gay just to irritate you. In most cases of homosexuality, choice is irrelevant. You being an asshole and treating a homosexual as an inferior is a choice though, and not a very good one. Those of you that actually [b]fear[/b] gay people need to pull your head out of your ass and look in the mirror; youre probably fugly. If not, just chill. How often do you hear about a gay man touching random people? How often do you see gay men doing something that would actually freak you out? Answer should be never, since its all in your near-empty heads.
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1 RispondiNo. If they're breaking the law, or breaking the requirements of wherever they are, then yes. Otherwise, the fact that they're gay shouldn't give you the right to turn down their service. [spoiler]I had a major deja vu while writing this[/spoiler]
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1 RispondiI'm not gay, I just like men.
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4 RisposteThat's like you refusing service to someone just because they're Hispanic or African-American it's not right.
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1 RispondiI want to say gr8 b8, but I'm not sure if this is b8
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2 RisposteModificato da cxkxr: 6/8/2015 3:36:51 AMYes. Just as we all have the right not to invite someone into our homes and serve them tea. It's immoral to use govt coercion, to force myself onto someone's property and do labor for me. That's borderline slavery. Your property is your property. the labor of your hands is your labor, and no one is entitled to it.
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131 RisposteModificato da Britton: 6/8/2015 6:39:09 AMYou may only refuse service to individuals, not groups of people based on a trait of that group.
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7 RisposteModificato da CoherentBadger: 6/8/2015 12:40:01 PMIt's ironic really. 50 years ago the civil rights momvement fought to desegregate society. Now people want to give businesses the power to refuse serving gay people. [spoiler]If this becomes a norm then what stops businesses from denying service based on race, religion, and Nationality[/spoiler]
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8 RisposteChristians are bigger ass holes than any LGBT person at least the LGBT community doesn't try and push there life style on other people. I should be allowed to refuse evangelicals service cause I think there life style is abhorrent.
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2 RisposteModificato da Komodo Laggen: 6/20/2015 2:48:43 PMIf you refuse service purely because of sexual orientation, you're a deplorable human being.
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It's not discrimination. That's a fact and law. Also your comparison was downright stupid. An owner can deny service an employee cannot. The lifeguard is not an owner, also they sign a contract and are legally liable if they don't help anyone, they can choose to not work there
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I think that business owners should be able to deny service to [b]anyone[/b]
