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Modificato da Fine_Meister:
4/13/2015 10:03:44 PM
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Exotic Handcannons will be Nerfed in Update 1.1.2
Taken from weekly update:
"Further improve the balance of encounters by limiting high-damage weapons"
This statement [b][i]perhaps[/i][/b] refers to primary weapons. So what primary weapons are high damage(high dps) weapons?
Most primaries have a TTK(time to kill) of around .8-1.1 seconds. Several weapons are far out of this range. [b]Other primaries simply cannot compete. With a more Primary focused crucible, changes to these weapons are likely.[/b] These weapons are:
*Thorn - .36 seconds of engagement/~.9 seconds to kill
*TLW - .56 seconds to kill
*Hawkmoon - .4 to .7 seconds to kill
*Red Death - .67 seconds
Whether you disagree with nerfs or not, let me know what you think.
If you disagree with my [b]prediction[/b], let me know what you think will be nerfed.
Edit 1: For the most part, there has been a healthy discussion in the comments section. The crucible designers don't want a clear choice of what to use in PVP. With this next update, a more primary focused crucible will equate to a more exotic primary saturated crucible. Ice breaker and invective will be viable; however, that's it. Among the exotic primaries, if you're not using an exotic handcannon or a pulse rifle, such as red death, you're at a disadvantage. If handcannons aren't patched in 1.1.2, I believe it's inevitable that it will eventually happen.
Edit 2: Expect Auto rifles to be buffed back to pre 1.1.1 values.
Edit 3: I want to make it clear that I am also making this prediction from the amount of Crucible experience I have, coupled with developer trends. [i]In the event that Exotic handcannons are not nerfed[/i], expect these weapons to saturate the crucible and lessen weapon diversity.
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2 RisposteModificato da GuTz HD: 4/12/2015 7:21:07 AMRed Death is fine as is. TLW & Thorn could use a slight nerf. Nothing near as drastic as autos got smfh. I believe they were referring to special/heavy ammo drops though;)
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1 RispondiYour stats are rubbish, you don't include how easy it is to control the recoil on the gun, and you ignore the time of the DoT tics on thorn
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I have a thorn and it takes me longer than that to get a kill
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3 Risposte[quote]Thorn's TTK isn't represented properly. It only takes .36 to get the 2 shots off that will kill you but you live for a little longer while the DoT works it's dick into your ass.[/quote]
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1 RispondiI believe limiting high damage weapons refers to secondarys and heavys no any specific guns. Refering to the limited ammo changes
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1 RispondiAre you joking crucible is special weapon focused.
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2 RisposteModificato da lomna17: 4/12/2015 4:49:53 PMHow does thorn have a lower ttk than hawkawesome if hawkawesome can one shot and two shot?
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1 Rispondii think you are right about the nerf i just really hope that its not too much because the issue is not really the time to kill because people strafe and not everyone can 2 shot with thorn. I think that thorn should just not be able to 2 shot so it should barely just leave you with some health so it requires a third shot. as for last word the only issue there is is that every now and then you get a 111 crit even when you are not hip firing. like getting those 111 crit head shots isnt simple from hip firing but if you can ads and still hit that crit it makes it much easier. They just need to make it so that last word cant hit that crit when you ads. they are far too dramatic with their changes. A perfect example is the auto rifle nerf.
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2 RisposteThey mean secondaries and heavys like you won't be able to use them asian therefore they are limiting high damaging weapons
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2 RisposteIt has to do with limiting the ammo of shotguns, fusions etc. Everybody can remove their tim foil hats now. They're making your hair look funny.
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1 RispondiYou know what deals more damage than a primary? Special and heavies. That's what they were talking about.
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1 RispondiWrong, all wrong Clearly in the update they were talking about special and heavy ammo, thats what is going to be changed when the new patch drops. I just listened to a planet Destiny podcast with Deej amd handcannons were not spoke of
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1 RispondiHandcannons were ALREADY nerfed. They're speaking of heavy ammo.
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5 RisposteNo, they were clearly talking about specials and heavy weapons... How you got anything other than that out of reading the update is beyond me
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1 RispondiRed death isn't a hand cannon
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3 RisposteDamn it Bungie, I have been using hand cannons since the beginning Don't -blam!- ME!!!
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1 Rispondithey have already been nerfed dude
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2 RisposteI just got Hawkmoon after playing this game since September.... So I'd be quite chapped if they fvcked it up
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2 Risposte-Thorn doesn't kill that fast -The Last Word kills way faster than what you stated
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1 RispondiYou should change the title to "I like to spew conjecture based on vague statements".
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I think your privileges to speak on the forums are going to get nerfed.
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2 RisposteDapper Gentleman
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Stop this...
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2 RisposteHawkmoon can one shot
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12 RisposteOh.my god you nerds and your cries I swear you guys can't play pvp for shit, if you cry about thorn then get yourself a thorn quit crying like little girls
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invective/icebreaker will give you plenty special if you want it badly, invective may as well always be equipped if you like to run a shotty, dont play a lot of crucible just hope they make it better for those who do.
