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4/6/2015 9:57:35 PM
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Signs of a bad raid group

What are your red flags of a potential fail group when joining a raid for CE or VOG?
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  • Fresh hard Crota run today with me, one other 32 and some 31 randoms. Other 32 triggers bridge and I wait until bridge is about to open and get there and get across, everyone else dead. Cheese bridge by other 32 getting across and I self rez'd and killed ogres, everyone else dead again. Nearly same thing on Ir Yut, I solo left side for wizard and shreaker and other 32 gets right, I die taking down Ir Yut and a couple guys live and snipe knights. At Crota it is painfully obvious we don't have a swordbearer, I am a warlock and other 32 is a titan. While trying to pick swordbearer this is the conversation. 31 Random: I have done it twice. Me: On hard you have beaten Crota as swordbearer? 31 Random: No, on normal I got the sword twice but died both times before I got any hits in but I know how to use the sword. Other 31 Random: I should be swordbearer because I have boots that give me extra agility while holding the sword. Me: Have you ever been swordbearer? Other 31 Random: No but I can watch a youtube video before we start. Against my better judgement I stayed and tried to help with a noob swordbearer. First run out one guy jumps down from mid and says swordbearer is in ogre room and tries to kill gatekeeper and dies. A couple more flawed runs without even taking Crota down once and we all just gave up.

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    • When you are at Atheon, you have one titan, and he thinks he's a HUNTER, there's something wrong

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      • Everyone else dead by third lamp

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      • LAST GUARDIAN STANDING

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        • When I'm on my Warlock then ask who's running Sword and silence falls..

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        • The douchebags that do weed while raiding.

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          • Do people still need the raid? I did it twice to get everything and couldn't be arsed going back.... Nothing left to do in there

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            • *squaaaaack* *squaaaaaaaaackk*

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            • If I'm in it, you're gonna have a bad time.

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            • Modificato da FoMan123: 4/7/2015 8:12:20 PM
              I Sherpa raids frequently so I'm pretty forgiving. But over time, I have noticed some "red flags." Note that none of these things mean the raid will definitely fail. They're just warning signs. In the lobby, the following are red flags: 1. No mic or unresponsive in the lobby. If you're not communicating, this is a red flag. I know that many players can't or don't communicate and are quite good at raiding, but I've just noticed that raids tend to fail when there is less communication as opposed to more. 2. Lying to get me into the lobby. If you're a lower level player, just say it so I know what to expect. If you don't have a tracking rocket launcher or you're trying to level up some gear, just say so from the outset and we can adjust by getting some other higher level players to help adjust for the situation. If I see you're lying about something as simple as level or gear, I have to assume you're lying about other things too, and in my experience, the raid will fail. 3. Foreign language players. Goes back to #1. In the game, the following are signs that your group could fail. 1. No communication. See above. 2. Guys who blame multiple deaths on their teammates or rage. These guys often quit, resulting in failed raids. 3. Too much heavy ammo glitching, unless you're waiting for someone or it's otherwise a very competent and confident group of players who are doing the glitch in order to ensure a flawless first-attempt. In my opinion, it's no problem to do it for the first attempt or doing it once in awhile if a synth happens to have not yet cooled down. But if you do the heavy ammo glitch every time because you don't want to stock up on synths, or if you won't use them, I've noticed that the raid often fails. Not always, mind you, but it's a red flag. 5. Any indication that you don't know how to do it without cheesing. Cheesing in order to save time is fine, but cheesing because you don't know how to do it legit means that the raid will fail as soon as something goes wrong. EDIT: Please stop posting to tell me how you do or don't do one of these things and you have X number of completions. Like I've said numerous times, these are red flags from my own experiences that any particular raid group (especially from LFG/pick up groups) might fail, not mandatory requirements.

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              • Signs of a bad raid group for me right off the bat is when not all members are even cooperating and communicating, like I will only hear 2-3 guys the whole time.

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              • When half the squad has fatebringer in crota hard. Might aswell use 294 atk dlc rare weapons

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                • "Do you guys know the shortcut?"

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                • When someone suggests we wait for everyone so we can all open the spirit bloom chest

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                • ~You can't hear one of the party members (or anyone else) because they seem to having a party going on in the background. ~A player who hasn't spoken a word takes the relic without being told. ~Someone claims he can solo the whole thing by himself and constantly reminds you of this. He's first to die every bloody time. ~Half the people are still using blues.

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                • Modificato da Lord of Fries: 4/11/2015 6:37:34 PM
                  When no one has the slightest idea of how hard it is to carry a whole team of 30's. Edit: they basically expect me to do all of the work.

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                • When someone uses golden gun on the acolytes as soon as the shields drops on hard mode crota. Making 2 orbs

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                  • What's a relic?

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                  • For VOG it really has to be that a team takes more than 30 minutes to open up the vault.

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                  • It has to be the awkward silence of everyone when asked "Who's running sword?" I ended up learning the sword role myself and decided I would only 2/3-man CE with friends only for a smooth and quick run.

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                  • Modificato da jordanisgross: 4/9/2015 6:15:31 PM
                    When it says the bridge is fully formed and someone tries to walk across it lolol "WHY DID I DIE IT WAS FULLY FORMED WTF" Edit: Can't forget the 30s/31s for Crota HM messaging everyone like "MUST be level 32!!!!" dude bye

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                    • When you spend more than 10 minutes forming the spiral thing in VOG

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                        When I speak English and everyone else speaks portueges

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                        • Modificato da J1bber: 4/7/2015 5:23:22 PM
                          I've only joined a few couple of random groups that I would consider bad... and those were ones that had obvious trolls or little kids with too much energy. For the most part, if I ever joined a group of randoms, they were mostly good.. and there were basically a few types 1. [b]The vets[/b] I could join a group for Vog or CE hard and basically we all utter the most minimal words to each other, but yet everyone knows exactly where to be and what to do and more importantly they know where you will be and what you will do. All jobs get done, no duplicated effort, everyone backs up everyone. 2. [b]The well-intentioned[/b] These guys are generally good players, just maybe not knowledgeable. The need someone to lead them. If told what to do they will get the job done. 3. [b]The Patton[/b] This is a group with one guy barking orders, he will assume everyone knows less than him until proven otherwise. Patton leads. Patton is not above taking advice from others and will implement them if they are better than his ideas. 4. [b]The Napolean[/b] This is a group with one guy barking orders... He assumes everyone knows less than him and nothing could change his mind about that. He is generally a good leader, but his ego won't let him take advice from others. If you mess up in his raid, you may hear about it. This type may also talk non-stop and get a little annoying. 5. [b]The screechers[/b] This could be a problem... They are just kids, who just want to have fun, not necessarily bad kids . However, completing the raid may be a secondary priority to them than just hanging out and doing stuff with their friends. If you don't want to babysit for a couple of hours, just excuse yourself from the fireteam.

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                          • 1. The one guy that acts like he's God at running sword and relic, and treats someone that hasn't even completed a raid like a total idiot. 2. Same guy that gets pissed off at you when you accidentally grab relic because you are hitting reload at the exact second you get teleported in VoG. 3. Getting a random raid invite and the people in the lobby assume you've completed Crota hard when lvl 30.

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                          • U mUst haVe GjaLLarHorN To dO Vault oF GlaSS

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