Massive complaint. You took away one skill based tool, armor piercing rounds, providing a boost to less skilled tools to shotguns (who's nerf did little to the Feltwinter Iron Banner Shotgun).
It was fun to predict where people where going to wander behind objects and even be fooled by them.
LDR abuse? You can learn where not to stand.
If you would take something from sniping, take away the final round perk that allows everyone to single body shot someone on a three shot magazine.
You CAN'T appeal to EVERYONE in a game. YOU CAN"T make it so new players are completely on par with skilled players, without some form of skill ranking system, even a limited one. This was a fun element to the PvP game, not an overpowered option.
[b]Shotguns[/b]:
Statistically, you are never going to have an even population of weapons used. Auto Rifles were simply the easiest to understand for general use so new players had them equipped more often.
Shotguns are similar when they can be coupled with sliding, blink, and melee's. Difference with shotguns is that they are a one shot kill, don't require much aim, and can effectively kill several players rather quickly if used effectively. If you'd like to increase the use of primary weapons, you lessen the effect of the lower skill, quick kill special weapons. This is why the removal of heavy ammo dropped from killed guardians makes sense.
Cheers guys! No unnecessary harshness.
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They nerfed Armour Piercing, but not Final Round, which is COMPLETELY broken. Logic.
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1 RispondiHey man you seem really well spoken , and I believe if us wall bangers unite we can get it back ! I think a video series really breaking it down could help, I have saved a lot of footage with the eff spear ( good games and bad games) and its a lil bit of luck , skill, and bungie lag time to use effectively. I've never really shot off my first two rounds, to get at the final round, but I payed 106 mol for this thing ! The perk is in the game yet I can't seem to shoot through even one wall or whatever now. Luckily I have a good variety of guns so I could just follow the gun trends but I thought we were going to be able to choose what guns we could use ? Imagine way back before the first nerfs, heck before the game was sold , did the devs not take a vex mythoclaust into the crucible and shoot each other ? It was obviously too powerful. Same with original suros,shadow price, hawk moon, thorn, plan c, am I missing any ahaha. Almost seems like there is a weapon to fight any weapon so why mess with things so radically, maybe patches should be small and more frequent ?
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2 RisposteYes, they should have just nerfed the final round perk and left AP alone. I do have a final round Sniper, however, I never intentionally spent rounds just to take advantage of it, because it's a cheap tactic. They should have made it so final round perk only works if you did damage with your previous shots. That would keep people from just spending their rounds blindly and intentionally settings themselves up for Last Round. There was nothing wrong with AP. It wasn't overpowered by any means. It just ensured people couldn't try to hide behind a wall and regen their health, and it's not like it's a guaranteed kill, because most of the time you miss the shot anyway.
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1 RispondiI normally don't rage about thing byt wtf. Armour piercing rounds was something that made sniping in pvp more fun. It certainly wasn't overpowered.
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3 RisposteThis! I was loving armor piercing rounds for my sniper! Wtf? Now its a useless perk. I used it alot in crota fight cause stupid sword bearer likes to hide behind the rocks. Pvp balance wrecks a perfectly good pve situation once again....smh.
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3 RisposteModificato da GMRcris: 2/26/2015 12:50:46 PMAgree 100% , while to be honest I didn't actually like the fact you could wall bang in this game, though I certainly won't say it didn't take skill. I didn't have an issue with it, I loved wall banging people but truthfully I didn't really want it in the game. If I wanted a game where I can shoot through walls I'd just play CoD. That being said I have no clue while final round is still on snipers. It needs too and should have been removed with this recent patch. It literally makes the skill gap so low people who rarely snipe so because of final round it's gross. If you have a sniper and abuse final round, your not a good sniper, lol actually your not s sniper period your just a douche exploiting a cheap tactic.
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Such bullshit. Armor piercing is a waste of a perk now. Doesn't even penetrate a door. Whats the point...
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im annoyed about armor pierce nerf too. guess ill just stick to praedyths revenge. and stuff ldr in vault till i get a solar burn *sniff*
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Modificato da Nova Know: 2/26/2015 12:43:35 PMWas rocking my new LRD void with APR post-patch, then the patch came and f*cked me in da ass, I dont really use snipers, LRD made me love snipers of its perk APR Now thanks to cry babies i cant shoot through walls anymore thanks for this bullshit bungie.. i dont give a f*ck how broken is ur game, i did enjoy it, but ur taking all the fun of it because of ur cry babies f4ggots
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[quote]You CAN'T appeal to EVERYONE in a game. YOU CAN"T make it so new players are completely on par with skilled players, without some for of ranking system. [/quote] Exactly. And yet that's what they keep doing. When will developers learn, that the people who keep your game alive for the long haul are not the ones buying it early, complaining on forums, then moving on to the next game. It's not the casuals. It's the hardcores who keep it alive. This new weapons patch is just another example of a studio caving to the unskilled, whiny chunk of the playerbase who want weapons nerfed instead of getting better at the game.
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