After 30 crota raids completions and plenty of attempts i have found that there are a few universal truths to raid teams.
#1 warlocks are the class most likely to be killed in the final part of the raid. They may be good at cheesing other parts of the raid but serious raid teams should avoid bringing warlocks along.
#2 players below 32 are 82% more likely to be killed during the easiest parts of raid. Level 31s even with skill are also alot more of a liablity than inexperienced level 32s as the damage they recieve and lack of damage they dish out makes them a burden to the rest of the team
#3 level 31 or below warlocks should raise a red flag for serious teams. They are a cancer on the serious raid team and should be replaced.
#4 the more players on your team that have a gjallahorn the more likely you are to progress successfully through the raid. When creating a raid team players with the gjallahorn should always be prioritized to those without.
#5 although the above points may seem to be controversial they are the result of weeks and months of raiding with various lfg teams.
EDIT: #6 based on replies throughout this thread, most forum trolls are warlocks. I hope bungie gives warlock are more useful role in the upcoming raid so that they can spend less time trolling and more time gaming
NOTE: I have a 32 warlock and i like the class im not hating on warlocks im just stating that they dont bring anything noticable to a raid. Striker gunslinger and blade dancer can all make orbs just as well as any warlock. Hunters are useful for invisibility/sword running and titans ward or dawn is useful for defence. Self res isnt all that useful since you have just created oversoul and voidwalker cant exactly help by nova bombing crota
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5 RisposteModificato da DrKrFfXx_: 2/27/2015 4:50:07 PMAfter 80 Crota raids, my Warlocks could teach you one thing or fifty about raiding.
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I've really started to enjoy running my 32 titan through the lamps with ruin wings and corrective measure. Ammo for days, Force Barrier for speedy reloads. It's almost unfair
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My warlock is so -blam!-ing weak He can barely take damage which is why I hate playing him.
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And yet a warlock is still the only class to have soloed crota on hard. Youve just been playing with shitty warlocks
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Modificato da Morrello: 2/27/2015 4:16:33 PMMake duh orbs, but yea lock gets carried at the end
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2 RisposteLol all classes are just as useful.
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1 RispondiSome of these things could be true but it's mostly the players skill, i have taken many 30's and 31's threw with no problems. All I tell them on crota is if you can drop him when I say so then I can kill him.
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1 RispondiWent into the thread thinking it was about mixing universal remote and truth.
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Hard raid got to crota twice [spoiler]just started[/spoiler] never been able to finish because level 32s aren't patient for 3 tries or they need me to have gjallerhorn one of the rarest guns in the game to play with him
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I've done hard a few times on my Hunter as a 31. My damage wasn't that far off. Ghorn and Hammer still doing work. I wasn't as bold during the initial phase but after that you should take zero damage for the rest of the fight.
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Modificato da Luckdog26: 2/27/2015 8:54:30 AM[quote] #5 although the above points may seem to be controversial they are the result of weeks and months of raiding with various lfg teams. [/quote] This right here, proves that NONE of your points are valid, nor are they "truths", you simply have had countless shitty lfg teams. I've done this raid with level 30's. I've done hard VoG with 27's. The most important thing is skill. Level is secondary to that. Also, 82% more likely to die is a made up statistic. You're bad attitude shows your probably not the best player, and certainly not the nicest person. I'll never allow you on my raid team, that's for damn sure.
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5 RisposteModificato da Scoottrullo456: 2/27/2015 7:26:28 AMStupid shit I've read all day and I have every class at 32. And you have a whole 31 completions on Crota lmao. Gtfo scrub
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Hahaha so many pissed off warlocks. They get so sensitive about their place in raids.
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2 RisposteDid a Warlock abuse you when you were younger or something? Another one muted....
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We need warlocks just as.much as any other class I am a titan on my main character and without the warlock I would not have orbs to put up the.boomer sheild that keeps the boomers off the hunter who turns invisible to attack crota every class has an important role and and in all my time playing raids warlocks make the most orbs and are a very important part in taking down crota I would hate to be on a team without a warlock
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I main a Warlock and always run the sword. I also die less then the Titans and hunters I run with. My clan also carries lvl30s through the raid so 31s are no liability. Maybe you need to find a group to run with consistently and you won't have to blame another class for your failures.
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I can create 9 orbs at a time with radiance...
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People still complain about classes?
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2 RisposteHonestly... most of this is wrong.
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I don't know I'm warlock and I'm usually not the weak link unless I've never done it. I mean I know some warlocks that just say " oh it's okay guys I can die it doesn't matter I'll revive and cheese this" but I would prefer not to. I mean I understand where your coming from, but not all warlocks are like that. Just saying
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1 Rispondii agree most people on the forums are warlocks and i also agree warlocks are the least useful in crota but...... when your on the window i'm sure a void walker could take a shot at the sword bearer or even some thralls to spawn orbs on top of the window for everyone (although hunters could do it better with gunslinger even though most hunters don't have the common sense to change to this subclass to generate orbs for the titans or people who need health regen)
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3 RisposteYou're a Fvcking SCRUB that's why YOUR teams failed. I have 2 Warlocks and 1 Hunter and I ONLY RUN SWORD when I'm doing Crotas. And I NEVER use BLINK STRIKE on Crota because he still sees you half the time now. So that means I run it the Exact same way with Both Classes. I have more than TWICE as many completions than you and ALL were done with LFG Fireteams. Your Point about Ghorn is Fvcking stupid also. I've done Crota with ONLY PRIMARIES for the fun of it. Every single word you wrote was not only STUPID but it revealed just how much of an XMAS NOOB you are. Lol. I've never said this before but.... [spoiler]GET GUD SCRUB...LOL.[/spoiler]
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I disagree with everything you said, but honestly I feel like you have had some bad luck with certain groups. Hope you have better luck in the future.
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Everything but 1 is correct. Warlocks dont have a specific job other than make orbs, but that doesnt mean they die more. Maybe have something about sword disappearing.
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1 RispondiYou're probably garbage at destiny. Go cry more bruh.
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I'm a warlock. I hardly ever die. Your post is based on warlocks you've played with. Let me guess. Next you'll say if a person doesn't have gjallahorn they're useless too? Lol. Post something intelligent next time.