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2/15/2024 9:53:01 PM
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PVP changes
Imo these changes look absolutely terrible! There just making everything checkmate now which is a horrible idea the pvp experience is going to be even worse than it already is. Checkmate is only liked by around 10% of the community most people hate it. This has given me and a lot of my friends a reason to quit d2 unless these changes aren't as noticeable as they seem I'm not going to keep playing this dying joke of a game. Checkmate will not save pvp it takes all the fun out of destiny it drifts too far away from what destiny is and takes all the fun out of the game. But I could be wrong (I really doubt it though) it could save pvp but from my experience with checkmate every match is always unfun and boring me and my buddy's will not be playing anymore if these changes are what they seem like they will be.
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4 RepliesI don't care about any of those. They're all doable. What it still hasn't addressed is CHEATING !!
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Only reason I’ve kept playing is because I really enjoyed playing a warlock bow main . Now that has been made unplayable. I’m glad I didn’t order TFS yet and I doubt I ever will . If my play style is made useless I see no reason to play this waist of time game
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This game really bored…
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9 Repliescan't wait to see all this crybaby trying the update and looking how good is the update
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Time to avoid PvP even HARDER.
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12 RepliesI agree. What are they thinking?? Checkmate's population is low because it is no fun!
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1 Replyyeah bungie, let us play with no brain and spam ability
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4 RepliesEdited by Magiscene: 2/16/2024 1:24:09 PMI can’t wait for all the sweatlords to constantly complain that crucible is just a sweat fest due to the new lights and casuals leaving the mode. Not all players want to or have time to get better. Reducing ability uptimes and potency reduces the power fantasy players fell in love with, making pvp more skill focused just ruins the gaming experience for casuals, and the special ammo changes (especially in this 1 sided matchmaking) are just going to allow winning teams to just steam roll the opposing team. Not exactly what I call a recipe to revive the mode imo but what do I know I’m not a professional game designer.
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19 RepliesYou need to read TWID again. Optimal TTK (headshot with primaries) stays the same… 140 HCs still 3 tap (77x3=231 damage). As long you can hit your headshots you’re still good. Body TTK will be a bit slower though. Special weapons will have a 20% buff… So, there shouldn’t be any difference in lethality for shotguns or fusions. Snipers will still kill with a headshot. Special Ammo… sure you only have 2 at the beginning of the game and then you have to earn it by using a primary weapon (kills, assists) and by playing objectives (for exp, capturing the flag). In a long run, this might actually be a good change.
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This is gonna be a good update
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15 RepliesThey look decent to me.
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1 ReplyThey need to address lobby balance in a big way. All this other stuff means jack 💩 if the lobbies are still f’d up
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I love the changes. Drop your special weapons and start using your kinetic. Believe in yourself. And if you are good enough with your kinetic and become a team player you will be rewarded to use your secondary. This is a very healthy change. Spamming fusions, shotguns camping with snipers is not fun man get out of your bubble and use your kinetics.
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10 RepliesEdited by Kiro - 13: 2/15/2024 10:26:36 PMWhy these HP changes are the best ever for titans and warlocks and c[b]u[/b]cks hunters over hardcore. You just build into 80 resilience(which we already do) and 120HC can no longer 2h 1body you. The game is perfect now. I can invest all my points into resilience & recovery to adjust the optimal TTK of a great deal of weapons now. All the while the less I invest mobility the faster I move. Not to mention they are not removing snap skate so I get to keep my 2 icarus dashes!
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18 RepliesI hate Checkmate, but the changes they're making are solid. I think they did the best thing possible by merging the modes.
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The jims are angry
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3 RepliesEdited by SilentStorm725: 2/16/2024 12:52:18 PMWhat did you expect? That Bungie made the Checkmate modifier because they wanted to? 😂 This had ALWAYS been the plan for literal MONTHS. They tweaked the Checkmate modifier to find out what works and what doesn’t and when it’s ready, tweak it into the base Crucible mode itself. It’s not Bungie’s fault that you’re too stubborn to see it. Also about this point of yours: [quote]Checkmate will not save pvp it takes all the fun out of destiny it drifts too far away from what destiny is and takes all the fun out of the game.[/quote] Who are you to assume that YOU know what Destiny even is? I don’t see your name on the back of the box, so I’m going to assume that you don’t know -blam!- over what this game represents. At the end of the day, it’s Bungie’s game. They don’t care if you’re a 2000 hour veteran who played D1 or a new player who just met -blam!- Shan Han. [b][u]If you don’t like their changes, leave. It’s that -blam!- simple.[/u][/b] As for me, I can’t wait for these changes because ANY change that at least slows down the shitshow abomination that is Destiny PvP is a good one. I also know that there are people like you who may not like the changes and that’s fine. I’m not trying to claim that you guys are wrong in liking base PvP as it is. But the fact of the matter is that [i]Bungie doesn’t.[/i] So, I offer the same choice that I gave OP above to you guys. Your choice. Now if you excuse me, I’m going to make some pizza. 🍕 👋🏿
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Can t agree more The only think to do to improve pvp is in the matchmaking i.e matching players with high latency. Man ... how hard can it be to fix that ? If you can t match 3 vs 3 in trials then 2 vs 2 even 1 vs 1 if needed instead of a 5 0 outcome where one guy 20kd in the winning team the losing team with not even 1 kill for the 5 matches !!! The lags only make me die without knowing why For the threading lower the hp so that you can easily shoot them will suffice no need to wreck them on the altar of a dying pvp anyway
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5 Replies“Let’s hate it before we try it” ~ Two year-olds
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I’m sure it will be very similar to vanilla D2 which was hand holding in groups, no hero moments just team shooting…I’ll have to wait and see but when checkmate was the weekly playlist the number of stacks was astonishing compared to currently.
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I don’t play pvp because it’s terrible, sometimes I just go in to do a bounty or mayhem, I’m glad that there will be even fewer reasons to go in... oh, it was fun in WQ there was a clan, we went to pvp to have fun and it was good until this moment came when almost everyone left...dead
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It’ll be not as bad as you think but the special ammo changes are going to be growing pains for a lot of low skill players. But I’m optimistic that long term it’s the right call
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14 RepliesWhat I don't understand is if you're going to raise player health, but at the same time, increase crit damage to compensate, what's the point?
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14 RepliesThe only reason checkmate isn’t more popular right now is because the weapon sandbox is garbage. Hence why they’re largely fixing the weapon sandbox. You’ll probably like it more when you don’t have a wishender and smg meta. You’re going to have to get used to not being able to ability spam anymore bro. Ability spam has been so -blam!- it makes pvp so annoying and unfun to play. Especially when you’re NOT the one ability spamming. These ability tunes will be long-term beneficial to the game.
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3 RepliesIndeed PvP changes will be interesting to see how they play out. But what won't be changing is Bungie cracking down on cheaters. Sony will be cracking down on Xim players. Fast forward, Bungie fired half their security team and plus those who were reported by me. No banned messages ever showed up. However on Aztecross's stream a ban message appears from a player he reported. Maybe if I streamed and post videos showing a 10,000 rpm manticore destroying players in PvP. They might get banned for that. Who knows. But what I do know is once Destiny 2 starts to die out and a new game replaces it. Unlike Bungie, that company will have a better banned system and learn to ban cheaters asap. Epic even banned tens of thousands of players for cheating and also posted either their main accounts or alt accounts. I've seen players in Control matches and IB matches using either net limiter or some sort of hacks. I report them mid-match nothing happens. These new changes will have pros and cons but what will remain are the xim players.
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Edited by Joulevette12: 2/15/2024 11:05:22 PMThat's the whole point the plan was to make pvp checkmate and I can't blame them I bet they sick of having to constantly buff/nerf abilities and weapons in both modes without them actually effecting both modes Let's be honest even now the pvp community complain about the same thing checkmate trying to solve like ability spam, special and certain weapons Sad part is we took advantage of special weapons economy soo much that these measures had to be taken
