I get it, everyone's mad about it, but this is how online story games work. If Bungie reduces the cost of infusion for armor or makes Ascendant Shards drop in more places, then I'm okay with the armor situation.
We went through sunsetting with TTK (Fatebringer and Gjallerhorn would have ruined TTK..). Then the transition to D2 we lost everything.
I have to state it again, this is how online story games (MMOs) work.
Edit: Didn't expect this calm post to trigger people.. Lol
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I'm fine with the weapons too. Im not fine with the armor. Armor is obnoxious to grind for good stats and even more obnoxious to MW. Guns? Idc sunset them all. I generally use whatever I like regardless of what other people use.
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Edited by Necrogen: 5/18/2020 4:15:09 PMto everyone: this video is not meant to convince you whether you're right or wrong. I do hope it challenges you to think of a better system than what Bungie is trying to implement.
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2 RepliesYou won't be when the bring back the exact same weapons with the same perks in a season or twos time and realise that all bungies talk was just fluff. How blind can people on this forums seriously be, they have been saying the same nonsense for 5 years and you lap it up.
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I’m not necessarily “for it” but I’m definitely not against it. I think it’s [i]a[/i] solution not the [i]best[/i] solution. But honestly I don’t think it will affect me that much, and it will shake up the sandbox so that’s good.
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It will go about as well as the lie quest.
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1 ReplyThe thing that irritates me is that they said they're going to reissue gear which begs the question what the hell is the point of sunsetting if you're just gonna reissue it back?
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Think most of the problem comes from it being such a sudden change of pace in Destiny 2. And the forum community (which is entirely different from the actual playing community) is a huge drama queen of the worst kind. Personally I'll wait to see how bad it will actually be before I decide. [quote]Edit: Didn't expect this calm post to trigger people.. Lol[/quote] Having an opinion will always trigger people, no matter which side you support :P
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I didnt like it at first but after seeing all the whining on the forums i've grown to be fine with it. I mean, it's just a game right?
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19 RepliesThe unpopular opinion? It's widely accepted. Don't let the forums fool you. Less than 2% of players don't want sunsetting here. The unpopular opinion is that sunsetting is [i][b]bad[/b][/i]. Planned obsolescence is a practice used in many MMOs and RPGs. It'll happen here too whether they like it or not.
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5 RepliesNo that's not how they work. You can't take a single part of MMO games then leave the rest. Most MMO games don't have the unique weapon system in Destiny. You get a wizard staff with higher power but your weapon don't affect your play style, your subclass does. In Destiny, your guns decide your play style, and if you cannot replace your fav gun then a player will have tk change the way they like to play. The description of loot and how they affect game play are different in Destiny and major MMOs. Destiny is and has always been in its own genre. There are parts MMOs do but Destiny cant because of the design of the game and progression. Start reading between the lines.
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3 RepliesEven MMO's don't make you grind for the [i]exact same gear[/i] you've already had before. The gear often has some new utilities or appearances that make it feel like a step forward. Bungie is proposing "reissued" gear that we've already found in the past. That's not okay. At all. No matter how you spin it. It was a bad choice with exotics in D1 and it's still a poor choice now.
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Bungie has stated in the past that they cannot keep up with the workload of having a vendor refresh every year as well as a bunch of new guns every year. It wasn’t that long ago that they said that kind of pace wasn’t realistic for them and they actually referenced that season of the drifter, black armory, and season of opulence was too stressful for them.... yet here people like you are saying you don’t even know how many guns they are going to release..... honestly it will probably be somewhere around five new guns a season and a whole bunch of old guns thrown in as well. This is what they have been doing since shadowkeep which by the way was the SMALLEST yearly dlc to date. They haven’t been releasing much content this year and their excuse was once again.... we cannot keep up with the model we had before shadowkeep and it was too stressful on our developers. This was their whole reason for shifting to the current model.... well that and money but as I was saying. I should take this time to mention that Forsaken, Season of the drifter, black armory, and season of opulence all put together added less content than The Taken King did back in destiny 1. In the taken King we experienced gear retirement but what came with it was an across the board refresh to every vendor in the game. This included crucible, vanguard, new monarchy, Dead orbit, Future War Cult, Iron Banner, Trials of Osiris, Prison of elders, Petra Venj..... those were just the vendors. We also got all new strike specific loot, all new exotic quests, all new world drops, and a bunch of new exotic weapons and armor. That is why the taken King was ok but this is not. Bungie will not be able to do that kind of update to weapons and armor every single year considering we have had the same set of iron banner weapons since forsaken, the same set of vanguard weapons since forsaken, the same set of crucible weapons since forsaken, and the same set of gambit weapons since forsaken. They did add a few more weapons for gambit prime and reckoning but that came in a different dlc and it was the only weapons they released for that dlc..... unless they take the taken king approach to this(which they won’t) this will only piss off and alienate their community after this falls flat on its face.....
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5 RepliesUnpopular opinion, you don't like having fun.
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That’s why it’s unpopular. Kinda self explanatory.
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Problem is the game has no content anymore....just awful activties and bounties. So without weapon collecting why are we playing?
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Edited by Harbinger: 5/18/2020 2:43:43 AMDestiny isn't a true mmo so that logic is thrown out the window. The formula was flawed from the start, which is why infusion was put in so nothing would get left behind and now its getting taken away. That perfect build you spent months trying to make, useless. Gonna have to do it again with a few months expiration to do it again, and again. Ever see the new reskins and think,"wtf is this perk pool"? Get ready for that on a larger scale cause by the time they fix any issues, the gear will be obsolete and youll have to...guess what, do it again.
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1 ReplyJump from said cliff
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Yeah sunsetting is good cuz: Sunsetting means that you dont need to grind anymore. Just use whatever drops. Play the new activities, strike, raid and dungeon after that you just wait for next DLC next fall. So just play the new DLC on release. Play the new content; will take like 2 months than uninstall destiny; play 10 months something else; reinstall destiny next fall xD Its not worth to grind weapons or gear.
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But that gambit machine gun super fun recluse an everything else sure just some weapons shouldn't be sunset.
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4 RepliesYou can't say that. This forum is for butthurt bungie/destiny haters. If you write something positive you'll get sh1tstormed by the large pool of neckbeards.
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Edited by Lull9: 5/18/2020 10:55:19 AMDestiny doesn't HAVE to be like anything else. Regardless, everybody approached the game and the grind since the start of year 2 like we would get to keep everything current forever. Then Bungie comes along and changes the rules with a swift kick to the nuts after everyone has sunk a lot of time into chasing "perfect" rolls. YOU can delete YOUR stuff... [i]right now[/i]. So can anyone else that has a problem with having choices and needs daddy-Bungie to take away their toys to control their behavior [i]for[/i] them.
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2 RepliesSunsetting is fine if Bungie handled loot the way loot SHOULD be handled in a game like Destiny, which is to say more quality loot and lots of it. Bungie just doesn’t seem to be capable of A) coming up with compelling loot designs and B) actually generating loot at the pace the game requires. So, sunsetting may work in [i]principle[/i], but for a game like Destiny the [i]practice[/i] will be a small disaster.
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Edited by PaIIya: 5/17/2020 7:40:45 PMI can understand with weapons to a certain extent. I feel bad for the people who think the grind wasn't worth it now, especially those who got things like pinnacles recently. Not with armour though. [quote]If Bungie reduces the cost of infusion for armor or makes Ascendant Shards drop in more places, then I'm okay with the armor situation.[/quote] Agreed it would help but I personally doubt they will.
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1 ReplyIf sunsetting weapons will bring Hawkmoon back, then let's gooooo!!!!