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1/22/2019 12:03:41 PM
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All of those sandbox changes, and the Telesto nerf will just make LH/NF/Shotguns even more OP.

Seriously. The only thing that was able to work around long range shottys and scrubs teamshooting with LH/NF was the Telesto. With it gone, we are zeroing in on 6 months of handcannon/shotgun meta, thats the worst and most tired crap in D2 so far. Jotun is quasi unobtainable for people not on RNGjesus's good side, and there is no weapon archetype that can contest the DRB/LH/NF holy trinity. Te people who got em, have nothing else to do and they will just wtf own quickplay just like you see from all of the "Pvp streamers" making glorious vids popping dudes in blues with the above. G F G Bungo

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  • Yeah bungie has no clue how to balance but that's been obvious for awhile now. Eh anthems out soon

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  • Please don’t nerf Luna’s Howl I enjoy playing crucible with my eyes closed.

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      Honestly, the Luna's Howl and the Not Forgotten shouldn't exist in the first place. They're primary ammo weapons that literally circumvent the TTK. Then again, they can't remove them now that they're here because there would be an uproar of people who have earned them.

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      • Before we know the actual buffs coming to Autos and Scouts you can’t say this patch will only improve shotguns and Luna/NF. Personally I’m looking forward to the 200 rpm Scout buff. The Mida is still my go to when shit gets bad. Any improvement is appreciated.

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      • Bungie only caters to the shotgun noobs which is why I’ve switched off destiny and gone to go play games that know how to balance their weapon systems

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        • And with today's TWAB, they just nerfed proximity special grenade launchers, making the current meta even more meta... nobody was even complaining about grenade launchers. Who are the sandbox developers? Please get new ones.

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        • Trace rifles (specifically coldheart) actually do quite well verses a shotgun rusher. With the upcoming buff to there ammo I think they will be quite viable.

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        • If you actually think Telesto is being ruined, then you crutch on it. I'm sorry. Simply being asked to hit another bolt in your burst and actually land your shots is not a hard ask.

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          • LOL this entire thread not knowing how to counter shotguns stay out fo 9 meters range minimum and you'll be fine or use your weapon and kill em xd

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            • We've already had 5 months of shotgun and hand canon meta anyway. Telesto also isn't the only weapon viable to counter them, any.good roll on a fusion rifle can do it, telesto just insta kills if you hit a wall with it and someone clips a single bolt. Also Jötunn sucks ass anyway, anyone who has it can say that it's far too inconsistent to have a place in any meta. It's fun to mess around with but only if you don't plan on winning your fights with it cause the tracking can and WILL screw you over.

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            • Edited by JM-TheChosen1: 1/23/2019 11:12:44 PM
              I understand your frustration about "The Besto." but people are criminally underrating sidearms when it comes to countering shottys. It doesn't kill in every scenario but a pre thrown grenade, a well placed jump and that sweet sweet pistol action will make those shotty users regret rushing you. Don't believe me? Tell that to my Vestian Dynasty with Mechaneer's Trick Sleeves. Boosted Bois. 😎

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              • They just need to have special ammo crates like D1...none of these green bricks all over the floor ... that's all thankyou.

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              • Edited by JACK_FROSST: 1/23/2019 1:43:19 PM
                Telesto is for people who can’t shoot. And thats it.

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                • First of all its not a nerf its a fix as curretly telesto is LITERALLY broken and doing damage beyond its archetype. Second of all, people that think the only counter to shotguns and LH/NF is telesto and wavesplitter are absolute garbage. There are loads of alternatives that arent just an easy no risk, maximum reward delete button, stop blaming your lack of skill on shotguns and lunas.

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                  • Nah. Screw telesto

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                  • I'm so glad teleso is getting a nerf.i would've preferred it going to the heavy slot but this is shit better because now less ppl will use it.and yeah alot of ppl don't touch comp after getting nf/Luna's. Comp is a shitty playlist esp in the higher glory ranks. It takes so long to find a match and the game modes are crap.

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                  • [quote]The only thing that was able to work around long range shottys and scrubs teamshooting with LH/NF was the Telesto.[/quote] I think with this line you just cemented your scrub status.

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                    • LoL someone’s mad they can’t crutch the one shot 3kill broken weapon... Reeeeeeeeeeee

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                        Simple fix, nerf the drb, lh, and nf. Yay, solved 🥳

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                        • With all the complaints about LH and NF and Shotguns...I wonder how salty people get when their killed by Autos 🤣

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                        • Cry more please

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                        • Stop playing ...the only thing you can do.

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                        • Telesto is so cancer. I’m glad they’re nerfing it. They should destroy it, nerf it to the ground. 🥰

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                          • Edited by Noir Renard: 1/23/2019 8:15:12 PM
                            Ehh I agree. The meta is stale as bread left out for 3 months. Don't know what to tell ya. But hay, I use bows alot and I can tell you there a still a option. Same with pulses. Also with the auto buff mabey they will be usable now.

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                          • A backup plan high impact fusion still counters shotguns quite well.

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                            • Every time I see a lame boring YouTuber make a video about owning, it’s like they think we don’t see that level 17 guy getting shot 4 times a row. And their stupid hype videos about new guns; “Jötunn IS OP!” stupid picture as a thumb nail. It’s shit, if the enemy team is competent, they aren’t going to get hit by that Jötunn like those low level players they always face in their Quickplay videos. I mean, they have to do comp or a tournament they switch to dust rock not forgotten and wardcliff immediately

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