[quote]And neither is nf. It's the perks being tied to the those guns and those guns alone. The guns are good, and have great base stats which makes them great as is. And the howl perk is a key component in making it a great gun. I think the problem lies in that they are the only two guns that have those perks. I think that howl should be random roll perk available on other weapons. Same with Desperado and outlaw. The guns are the trophies, showing you were able to do it, but I think locking the perk to just those two is what the real issue is.[/quote] ... so make the thing that makes the weapons special not special anymore. “If I can’t have it nobody can!”

No those guns take hard work to get. Luna for me was the trophy for the grind, handing the same perk out would make that grind totally pointless.

Wrong

No way... I'm just curious, with no judgement; do you have either of these weapons?

So get rid of what makes getting pinnacle weapons worthwhile..?

You mean like... all the other pinnacle weapons having unique perks? But those are just dandy, amirite?