No. 1:St Paul’s advice about whether women are allowed to teach men in church:
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
No. 2: In this verse, Samuel, one of the early leaders of Israel, orders genocide against a neighbouring people:
“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)
No. 3: A command of Moses:
“Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)
No. 4: The ending of Psalm 137, a psalm which was made into a disco calypso hit by Boney M, is often omitted from readings in church:
“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)
No. 5: Another blood-curdling tale from the Book of Judges, where an Israelite man is trapped in a house by a hostile crowd, and sends out his concubine to placate them:
“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they -blam!- her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)
No. 6: St Paul condemns homosexuality in the opening chapter of the Book of Romans:
“In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)
No. 7: In this story from the Book of Judges, an Israelite leader, Jephthah, makes a rash vow to God, which has to be carried out:
“And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)
No. 8: The Lord is speaking to Abraham in this story where God commands him to sacrifice his son:
‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)
No. 9: “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)
No. 10: “Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)
Religion of peace and morality? 🤣 religion is evil.
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2 RepliesA juicy bait appears
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1 ReplyEdited by Furiously Dashing: 10/3/2018 12:47:48 PM"10 No-life scumbags Christians like to ignore" Number 1...
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Here’s some context for y’all regarding the Bible: aside from being heavily “edited” and modified to fit into a society’s “frame of mind”, the supposed monotheistic christian god was nothing more than a member of an alien race who needed followers for his own interests.
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6 RepliesThe lack of context in this post is disturbing.
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1 ReplyTypical. Takes verses out of context.
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God damnit this exploded. And its filled with unironic complaints about lack of context from people who take a [i]certain[/i] stance on a [i]certain[/i] topic. L M A O
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7 Replies*Forgets to read the rest of the verses that goes with them and forgets the context of social beliefs at the time*
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1 ReplyNo context is given. This is why atheism is on a decline, people can see through your bs. And the story about Abraham and Isaac is one most Christians learn very early on in their lives, as Abraham never killed his son, Isaac. God told him not to once they reached their destination.
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The irony of all the [i]"but muh context"[/i] 🤣
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Guess it’s a bit late for my typical *grabs popcorn 🍿* comment huh?
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20 RepliesI’m not going to type out what everyone already has, and I fully agree with them. You completely ignored the context of all of this. Tell me, how do you believe we came into existence?
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You mean followed of old beliefs that originated from the infancy of human discovery cherry pick their holy texts? [spoiler]you don’t say[/spoiler]
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12 RepliesContext man.
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You embellished this.
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>tips fedora
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Do you happen to work for the WSJ?
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2 RepliesLmao all the Bible is is a book of rules on how not to be a piece of shit
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4 RepliesYou hate Christians?
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8 RepliesLol at all the comments. So many people trying to argue Genocide and slavery are okay as long as god says so. “Oh they deserved to have their women and children slaughtered because they turned away from god”. As far as I’m concerned genocide and slavery are NEVER acceptable. Christians and Jews have to defend the actions of barbaric bronze age tribes just to justify the holiness of their book.
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I ignore all bible quotes.
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YHWH is a figment of the collective imagination of ancient stump-jumping hillbillies, but if you have any doubts it's pretty easy to cover yourself. Just park an iron chariot in your driveway and the grumpy ol' sociopath can't touch you.
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After reading through everything [spoiler]I WORSHIP RNGESUS NOW[/spoiler]
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16 Replies[quote]No. 1:St Paul’s advice about whether women are allowed to teach men in church: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12) No. 2: In this verse, Samuel, one of the early leaders of Israel, orders genocide against a neighbouring people: “This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3) No. 3: A command of Moses: “Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18) No. 4: The ending of Psalm 137, a psalm which was made into a disco calypso hit by Boney M, is often omitted from readings in church: “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9) No. 5: Another blood-curdling tale from the Book of Judges, where an Israelite man is trapped in a house by a hostile crowd, and sends out his concubine to placate them: “So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they -blam!- her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28) No. 6: St Paul condemns homosexuality in the opening chapter of the Book of Romans: “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27) No. 7: In this story from the Book of Judges, an Israelite leader, Jephthah, makes a rash vow to God, which has to be carried out: “And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5) No. 8: The Lord is speaking to Abraham in this story where God commands him to sacrifice his son: ‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2) No. 9: “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22) No. 10: “Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18) Religion of peace and morality? 🤣 religion is evil.[/quote] 1. That is saying that a woman is not to be a pastor, men are meant to lead, hence why Paul said that. 2. You do realize that these people were continually at war with Israel, not only that, but they killed Israel’s children. http://matthiasmedia.com/briefing/2013/08/the-amalekite-genocide/ 3. An Old Testament law for a theocratic nation, if you truly know about the Bible, you would understand that Christ established a new Covenant. 4. That was one of what we call, the Imprecatory Psalms, where Israel calls out for justice against their enemies. Babylon had just taken Jerusalem and the Edomites looted their nation, Babylon had killed Israel’s infants, while graphic, it was a way of crying out for the destruction of a nation that had humiliated them. 5. You take that verse out of context, the Bible never said he was justified, it pointed to how bad of a man he was and what resulted of it. 6. I disagree with homosexuality. I think people should be free to do it but I disagree with it. If you’re talking about the part where he said they received due punishment, he was talking in accordance of the law. 7. He sacrificed his daughter without God’s approval. It is said in Deuteronomy 18:10 that there shall not be human sacrifices. 8. If you read the story m8, you’ll see that it was a test of faith and when Abraham showed his faith, God stopped him from killing Isaac and gave them a ram instead. 9. And? That is simply saying that the husband is to be the leader of the household, it doesn’t lessen women. 10. The reason Paul said that was so that the slaves could resemble Christ and in a way perform a ministry, you also leave out the fact that in the Graeco-Roman times slavery was an economic position, it wasn’t like the slavery of the 19th century.
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23 Repliesnumber one> Obviously, you read but don't understand. Paul told Timothy not to let women teach because of the heresies and paganism brought in by the subversive cult of Artemis (not the mainstream artemis) if you notice, Paul makes a shift from plural earlier in the chapter to singular (women/men to woman/man). if you go back to the greek. paul uses several words that do not exist in english that in greek translate roughly to in this instance. also the word used for "authority" in this instance is AUTHENTEI, a greek word for violence such as -blam!-, murder, suicide etc. So in context, you are completely wrong. I actually laughed for the rest of the verses. No 4. Amalek. Long standing enemy of israel who had murdered pillaged, and -blam!- the people. they where being judged. No. 3 Sorcery is of the devil. pretty simple. No 4. Referring to the maltreated non-enemies of Israel who would be happy to kill their children. No 5. God burned that city to the ground for the actions of those men who -blam!- that woman No 6. So what? it is a long-standing fact that homosexual sex is a sin. no biggy. No 7. you answered in your title. Don't promise rashly to the only person who can kill you for breaking a promise. God is a being of truth and cannot lie, he expects us to do the same No 8. had you taken the time to finish the story you would have found that God forbade Abraham from sacrificing Isaac. No 9. Submit in greek means don't rebel. so it reads, Wives, do not rebel against your husbands as you would not rebel against the Lord. Translation be gentile and act in peace No 10. Christians are told to turn the other cheek, this doesn't stop if you are enslaved. Translation act in peace God is a moral, peaceful being, but he is also just. if you violate his law, there are consequences, just like the Amalekites, Sodom and Gamorah, and Jephthah found.
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7 Replies[quote]No. 1:St Paul’s advice about whether women are allowed to teach men in church: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)[/quote] 1) Cultural 2) Women do have the tendency to desire to lord over other men (aka be the bossy bitch) and men do have the tendency to cower from leadership [quote]No. 2: In this verse, Samuel, one of the early leaders of Israel, orders genocide against a neighbouring people: “This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)[/quote] Yup. To defend their country in the time before the new covenant. It’s God’s right to give and take life. [quote]No. 3: A command of Moses: “Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)[/quote] Yup. They’re literally working evil. Gotta keep those evils out of ancient, pre-Christ-Covenant Israel. [quote]No. 4: The ending of Psalm 137, a psalm which was made into a disco calypso hit by Boney M, is often omitted from readings in church: “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)[/quote] You forget that this was written by King David: a typical human being who also had killed his friend to marry his wife because he got her pregnant. [quote]No. 5: Another blood-curdling tale from the Book of Judges, where an Israelite man is trapped in a house by a hostile crowd, and sends out his concubine to placate them: “So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they -blam!- her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)[/quote] Yup. Just like you, any man has the potential to do great evil. This story is an example of how depraved Israel was at the time. [quote]No. 6: St Paul condemns homosexuality in the opening chapter of the Book of Romans: “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)[/quote] Because homosexuality is a sin and an abomination to God. [quote]No. 7: In this story from the Book of Judges, an Israelite leader, Jephthah, makes a rash vow to God, which has to be carried out: “And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)[/quote] Obviously he made a bad vow [quote]No. 8: The Lord is speaking to Abraham in this story where God commands him to sacrifice his son: ‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)[/quote] Oh, you conveniently forgot to mention that God stopped Abraham from actually killing his son, and provided a ram instead. Funny that you only can accuse out of context 😆 typical pathetic atheist behavior [quote]No. 9: “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22) [/quote] Because men must step up as leaders [quote]No. 10: “Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)[/quote] How would it be beneficial for a slave to lash out to their master? Religion of peace and morality? 🤣 religion is evil. It is. Religion is a man made method of earning self-righteousness instead of having an actual relationship with God. So it seems you are incapable of intellectual honesty.
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22 RepliesDid you come up with this on your own,m or is it just more atheist - anti Christian copy/crap? I mean not one thing you said means anything without context of what the verses are from, nor do you give a single shred of information as to what they should be ignored for. All in all, you look really unintelligent right now.