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Edited by Lemur:
3/23/2017 3:29:08 PM
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To the people complaining about the Adept Raid Weapons, Why?
I guess I'm just dense because I don't really understand why the new adept weapons are such a bad thing?
We're getting some of our most favored weapons back from the abyss that is Year One but for some reason the new system being used to give us back our elemental primaries is being hated on by a lot of people on Bnet. I don't understand, ever since Year Two began people have been wanting a solar and void companion to the Zhalo Supercell but now all of a sudden it's a bad thing that we're getting just that and more.
I'm not trying to be harsh and criticize people for this, so if I come off that way I'm sorry. I just want to know why people are hating on this so much.
[i]Edit: Grammar and Spelling(I rushed this a little)[/i]
[i]Edit 2: Leaping Leopards Batman I didn't expect this to take off.[/i]
[i]Edit 3: I've been reading through all of your posts and I seem to have an understanding of it now. It seems that people are just genuinely upset that they can't run their old generic loadout from Year 1 ex: Fatebringer, Black Hammer and Gjally. I can see why that is disappointing but I also see the potential for new loadouts to be crafted from this. Fatebringer is still getting a legendary varient so it will still be one of the better weapons for VoG, the same rule applies to VoC. [/i]
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Edited by BlazeLord7: 3/23/2017 2:02:35 PMWon't bother me in the slightest. Nightfalls are easy as it is, we don't need primary burn for that, and I'm well used to being prepared with my loadout, so special and heavy gets more use. Don't care about collecting but I could see people that want to collect all weapons and gear being annoyed as the vault space hasn't been increased.
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And another thought! Every single thing we have ever been told we are not getting back, we have gotten back to some extent. Minus a few Y1 exotics of course. We were never supposed to see the old raids get updated. They are now. They told us it was damn near impossible to bring back old legendaries like Shadow Price and TDYK. We've got OG legendaries from PvE and PvP now. They told us extra Vault Space would [u]never[/u] be a thing. Hah. They swore Gjallarhorn would never be brought up past y1 light. Now we've got two different fcking colored ones lmao. All this and more! Many more things I can't recall off the top of my head, issues of varying degrees. So much they couldn't do and yet they did! And I appreciate all this, I truly do. I just don't get how it was hard for them to just decide to give us elemental primaries straight up. Bungie has literally stepped down on so many things they thought and apparently couldn't do, this easily should have been one of them. This game is on its last leg as well, with the second installment coming out this year. Just give us the whole package. Armor looks dope but I only care about my legendary Vision of Confluence. I kept my old one as my sole Y1 weapon hoping against hope that it would be made viable again some day.
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Ita bad because they were never exotics. Now they are but the legendary counterpart is the same minus a burn. I wont be using them.
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For me, I dislike it because I'll now have two copies of the same gun taking up vault space, and on a burn, I'll be using an exotic primary, and not able to use an exotic special or heavy that an elemental legendary would allow. I also don't imagine any of my friends will be coming back to play long enough to run through all the challenge rotations.
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Edited by What I Look Like: 3/23/2017 1:52:27 PMWill definitely be pissed if exotic variants of the weapons are the only ones with elemental damage. Yes, do this extra work and get kinetic weapons for it. Uhh.. no? This game is pretty much done with anyway, would it really kill these people to FULLY listen and just give us these weapons back the way they came to us initially? You're telling me making exotic variants of legendary weapons was easier than just giving us the same weapons? It seemed so simple, this was a time that we wouldn't mind having access to the same gear as before. And yet here we are.. I just wanted a full solar loadout. Vision of Confluence, a good solar sniper, and Raze Lighter. Can't do that now.
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People liked the weapons because of the stats and perks, I don't understand why take the burn away and put it on a exotic copy, makes the original weapon less unique Example: why people love fatebringer? Hand cannon, outlaw and firefly, arc damage was just a bonus I was finally going to get my hands on a vision of confluence with current light level but now I'll keep my dis-47
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My only complaint is that they never should have went away.
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I would like a legendary 400 fatebringer. Not saying with/without arc damage. Adept with arc from challenge normal without element from non challenge could be fine. I'll use whatever i find useful, it's only about preferences, i'm happy with 4 relevant Raids.
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Its amazing, i love it!! Idk why, you dont need the element for pvp. Im guessing because they are crying about not being able to use their precise ice breaker at the same time
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People complain about anything, that question has become redundant at this point.
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1 ReplyI usually use a Gally or a sword for my exotic slot for pve. The only other heavy I use is the machine gun from Kings Fall. It's gonna be hard for me to give up my exotic heavy for the adapt weapons.
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1 ReplyWhen ol' lucky Luke announced they were pulling elemental primaries, it was to promote weapon diversity. Now by bringing them back as exotics sets weapon diversity back further than when they first yanked them in year 1. No special or heavy exotics are an option if you want a full elemental layout. It's easy to complain because they are contradicting themselves. Besides that, they've nerfed exotics down to be competitively balanced to the point where being exotic is fairly meaningless. All weapons may as well be legendary at this point. They look like a company who's leadership said we want to go 10 years but never bothered to write up a 5 year plan.
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3 RepliesThe issue with me is that there is only a chance for them to drop from the challenges which rotate on a four weekly basis giving you one chance per character every four weeks to get the weapon(s) you're chasing. You could get lucky or you could just as easily run the weekly raid on multiple characters and get nothing. If you were here for HoW, then I'm sure you remember how rare it was for an elemental primary to drop at Skolas and I'm concerned it'll be the same here. There's also the question of how RNG will work on this: are popular weapons like Fatebringer (Adept version) going to be rarer than Praetorian's Foil or will they all have an equal chance of dropping? They've claimed drops will be generous, but experience has taught me to take their claims with a pinch of salt. I guess we'll find out soon enough. Given that there's roughly 6mths before the expected release date of Destiny 2, imo having a guaranteed drop for completing the weekly raid (including all challenges) would be far more enticing than having a possibility of them dropping when completing each challenge, especially if the drop rate is as stingy as I've come to expect. I just hope I'm wrong.
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3 RepliesFor me, a gun having a burn doesn't make it "exotic". Like, why would I use up an exotic slot for some pretty underwhelming primaries? It's true that I can use their non elemental counterparts, but the funny thing is that for some of them, it's the burn that made them acceptable. I am left unimpressed with this compromise.
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7 RepliesThe only issue I have with this is the fact that it's kind of a waste of an exotic slot; that slot could be used for much better weapons (mainly heavy or special) with [i]actual[/i] exotic perks.
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7 RepliesThis should never have happened in the first place. https://gamerant.com/destiny-gear-weapon-obsolete-156/ [b]"Bungie Said Destiny Gear and Weapons Would Never Be Obsolete"[/b] "The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete…the time you invested in your stuff should be respected.”
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I would tell you why but someone else already said it much better than I ever could.
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I have so many games to catch up on. This slap in the face is a perfect excuse. I will log in to see where I fall in the new book though.
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8 RepliesBecause we member when the game was really fun... I member
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Its because they had taken it away only to give it back for the excuse of "new" content. And now that they're exotics you of course can't use them with other exotics.
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I have come to despise (mostly) everyone on these forums. All they do is bitch and moan about stupid shit. They ask for elemental primaries back and when they get them they complain? Because they are exotic?
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#Vaultspace. Where to hoard all those stuff?
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They shouldn't be exotic, all I'm saying
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Edited by MIA Philly: 3/23/2017 1:57:26 AMI'm surprised bungie didn't make exotics the only weapons with burn even in the secondary and heavy slots. Just make everyone even more pissed. Bungies motto is, "if it works... break it"
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4 RepliesEdited by Creed422: 3/23/2017 12:37:50 PMWhat pisses me of about it is.. Wait for it... VAULT SPACE! They make two different versions of the weapons for every raid. but dont increase the space to hold them. Total BS. Thats a sh!t ton of new weapons from all 4 raids for primary, secondary, and heavy. Not to mention new armors.. dont even get me started on that one.
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Instead of making a legendary weapon exotic, they could have just added an elemental slot to unlock like ornaments have on all raid and trials adept weapons. I'm happy to have the weapons back, however in my opinion the way they did it is lame. If your going to make something exotic add an extra perk to it at least. God forbid we burn through a strike or raid a little bit faster, especially with D2 around the corner.
