Don't get me wrong Bungie...all members of our clan loves the Game. But tbh...the Raid is just frustrating. As everybody knows that the Raid is to short is another story. The Point is that CE HM Bossfight is so glitched, it's not even funny. We were able to beat him a couple of times, but it makes no fun at all. Even if you are playing perfect, 90% of the Time there is some Bug or glitch which ends the Fight immediately .
A couple of examples:
- Swordbearer hides to much or to long, runs to the opposite side of the Team, which makes it almost impossible to kill him fast enough. -> wipe sometimes
- If you are lucky and he is not hiding like a *** and you kill him fast the sword just disappears after you grab it, well done. -> wipe
- Crota himself comes inside and kill immediately 1-3 Players. -> wipe
- At the start of the Fight some Knights comes inside trough the "Glass"
- Crota goes to the wrong side sometimes. -> possible wipe
- Boomers randomly shooting the invisible hunter before Blink Strike -> wipe
- Nechrocasm is not realy a reward or a motivation (atleast the Legendary Raid Weapons are nice besides the Song of Ir Yût which is weak)
- you hit Crota and left in perfect time but instead of turning orange and standing up he glitches straight into a sword strike killing you on other side of platform
That are a few examples. The thing is, even if you are playing perfect or almost perfect the whole Fight is still 80-90% Luck. I can speak for my Team, we are not motivated at all to do Crota because of that. Sometimes you have luck and no glitch appears and you beat him in 2 tries. Till the Boss the Raid makes fun, but then its over!
If you have luck and there is no glitch thing on your Try (which doesn't happens often) you can beat him with a good team easily. But if not you can wipe there for 3 hours because you get one bug after each other.
Imo there should be no luck factor involved in a Bossfight, so please fix your Bugs. I have no Problem if the fight is difficult, but then pls without bugs. At the Moment the bugs makes this Bossfight a pain in the ***. it seems to be that you didn't even test the hm Raid before you released it.
Would be also nice if you Fix your new exotic Weapons, because at the Moment they are completely useless!
- Nechrocasm -> for a HM Raid Weapon its way to weak especially when you compare it to vex mythoclast.
- 4th Horseman -> absolutely unuseable
- No Land Beyond -> worst Exotic Weapon Ingame
- Dreagonsbreath -> meh
This is not a hating Post...its just criticism & Feedback.
Thanks
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-JtlRQDc9Ut]Planet Destiny talking about the glitches[/url]
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Edited by shark-zone: 2/3/2015 10:47:36 AMje parle en français pour dire que je suis d'accord avec squadric... le raid est frustrant et bourré de bugs... -par exemple quand quelqu'un meurt et que l'oeil nous tombe dessus, on arrive parfois à le détruire juste à temps, du moins on le pense, mais 1 seconde après la cinématique qui montre que l'oeil s'est arrêté, on meurs tous... -quand par miracle j'arrive devant cropta en mode invisible, et que mes collègues tirent sur cropta au gjallarhorn, il arrive souvent qu'il ne se mette pas à genou, pourtant je peux lui faire du dégat, résultat comme je ne sais pas visuellement s'il est à terre ou non impossible de savoir quand frapper, résultat il m'élimine d'un seul coup. et ça nous est arrivé une 10aine de fois hier soir... on est arrivés à 1mm de sa barre de vie mais une mort bête du porteur d'épée remplaçant nous fait tout perdre, merci à la fureur qui nous achève sans espoir de nous relever... avec mon équipe nous en sommes arrivés à la conclusion que ce raid ne devait être fini qu'une seule fois pour le prestige et que les récompenses de ce nouveau raid 33 n'en valaient clairement pas la peine... quand aux armes de ce nouveau DLC c'est une belle blague... le "finis terrae" est surement l'arme principale la plus inutile du jeu... impossible de tuer rapidement un mob jaune avec et pourtant il me semble que c'était écrit dans le descriptif de l'arme "fusil de précision"... on devrait plutôt appeler cette arme "tire-bouchon" le "souffle du dragon" n'a aucune utilité face à cropta, les ennemis évitent ses grenades solaires donc moins utile qu'une vengeance de heze pourtant plafonné à 300... la "nechrocasm" n'a guerre plus d'impact qu'un vulgaire épilogue d'atheon... peut-être bien contre un mob rouge mais pas suffisant pour me motiver à terminer un raid 33 qui nous en a déjà trop fait baver avec tous ses bugs... le gros défaut de ce raid? aucune arme ne vaut à mes yeux la grande faucheuse du raid d'atheon... cette arme nous donnait envie de faire le raid, mais cropta...? une invitation pour cropta commence plus à me courir sur le haricot qu'à m'intéresser... c'est dire à quel point c'est motivant... et pourtant dieu sait que je cherches désespérément toujours 3 armes exotiques jamais obtenues depuis les nombreux raids et nuits noires faits sur mes 3 personnages. frustration... dégout... haine!
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I've seen so many bugs in this fight it's ridiculous. Bungie please focus on bugs as a priority rather than the "cheese" At this point if a cheese was found for crota hard mode I'd do it in a flash just to make up for my wasted time in the bug ridden boss fight. I may even do what some of my clan have started to do and start playing a game that works as it should.
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I blame all the asshole try hards getting bungie to fix fix the cheeses cuz now look at it it's the vog all over again
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3 RepliesHave had issues with ogres not spawning when they are supposed to :-/
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6 RepliesI think you are just a dumbass who can't complete the raid. Half of those aren't even glitches.
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4 RepliesEdited by THRASHER-UK: 2/2/2015 2:16:02 AMI love the dragons breath and no land beyond, you have to learn how to use them, dragons breath suits warlocks especially with heart of paralysis fire, no land beyond use with its melee cancel or weapon swap cancel. Haven't got the crux yet. Forth horseman is appalling. Crota glitches all overage place, best one. Slides on his knees to the sword bearer, and kills him off the platform.
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The disappearance of the sword and when crota dont drop after 4-5 ghorn shots. My only two real complaints.
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We killed crota in three wipes yesterday only thing happened to us is nights running through the barrier but a ghorn to the face solves that problem
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Hm crota is to annoying to play we always get bugs an glitches we have finished it twice since release an our clan has all good players so it's not a case of get good at all so much heavy ammo being wasted because of the glitches an bugs we are at the point now we're we can't be bothered to do it again
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2 RepliesI agree they need to fix that fight, half of my regular group want nothing to do with it after beating it once. I want the crux and will never touch it after that. Fix bugs next time not the cheats.
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Exactly this!!! They spend so much time and energy making sure you can't cheat that I think they didn't even bother to try and correct these bugs and glitches.
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Edited by YuRR: 2/2/2015 2:01:10 AMHm crota will never ever be played by me again with the glitches. No need for it anyway since i have my three lvl 32s. Like you said the rewards suck all i wanted was glowhoo and now im done.
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Yeah all I'm missing is the crux and only beat him on hard twice, I'll just run normal 3 times for shards energies until next month no point in hard mode honestly, yeah more drops, yeah I'll prolly do the first two parts in hard if I need the mats, but Crota on hard needs to be fixed
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The luck thing is true. Our team always uses heavy and does their part and doing it like that it took us 3hr and this week it took us 3 tries. So idk what to say about this raid. I made plans to do Crota all day on Saturday and it took 3 tries cuz we got lucky.
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bump for the knight encroachment bug, and the instantly despawning sword seriously annoying!
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You have to call it a cheese in this game to get anything fixed. They absolutely do not care about bugs which ruin the experience of the player.
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1 ReplyIt's ridiculous how much luck is involved on HM Crota. My team took about 15 hours to kill Crota the first time. The next day we tried it again and did it on the first attempt! After reset we tried for about 5 hours and got so disgusted with the bugs we haven't been back at it yet. The worst is when the disappearing sword happens on the third sword. Also another bug I've noticed that the op didn't mention was the boomers randomly shooting the invisible hunter when he's near Crota. I understand that they will shoot at the last known position but it happens before he does the blink strike. Its obviously a glitch because it only happens about 10% of the time.
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I can see a little hate here.
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2 RepliesThe worst is the disappearing sword. That is a game wiper and frustrating as f-uck
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1 ReplyDude, 4th horseman is a great weapon. U might really not be to good at dis game den
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Standing on the windowsill isn't cheating it's a strategy. The fact that to win your team must complete 20+ precise motions perfectly in a row all while hoping there are no bugs to derail is just pathetic. 1 mistake or 1 bug and wipe.
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13 RepliesIf have to agree with most of the other people here your team can't be that good. My team even with the crazy bs that's happens a lot to us manages to beat him in 3 tries or less your swordbearer has to be good enough to draw out the sword bearer when he hides. Not hating on you but your team must be bad
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What about the fact you can Atheon push him off the back of the map?
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16 Replies80-90% luck? Your team must suck there's 10% luck at the most. You must be one of those idiots who cheesed all the way up until hard mode and don't know the difference between what's supposed to happen and what you think is a glitch. Dumbass/Horrible player in my opinion with my team we beat him 50% of the time after getting our strategy down in the first week.