Bungie's business model is still consistent with the definition of "Free to Play." Not everything is free in a Free to Play game. It's more like a trial to get people interested in purchasing additional expansions. https://www.techopedia.com/definition/27039/free-to-play-f2p [quote]Free to play (F2P) refers to a business model for online games in which the game designers do not charge the user or player in order to join the game. [b]Instead, they hope to bring in revenue from advertisements or in-game sales, such as payment for upgrades, special abilities, special items, and expansion packs.[/b][/quote] https://www.definitions.net/definition/free-to-play [quote]Free-to-play refers to any video game or social or mobile application that has the option of allowing its players/users to play/download without paying. The model was first popularly used in early massively multiplayer online games targeted towards casual gamers, before finding wider adoption among games released by major video game publishers to combat video game piracy and high system requirements. Since games using the concept are available at no cost to players, they use other means to gather revenue, such as charging money for certain in-game items or integrating advertisements into the game. Free-to-play can be contrasted with pay-to-play, in which payment is required before using a service. Pay-to-play games usually offer equal gaming experience for all players while free-to-play games give advantage to premium players. [b]Free-to-play games are similar to freemium, a more general term and a business model in which a product is offered free of charge while a micropayment is charged for users to access premium features and virtual goods.[/b] Shareware by contrast typically only offers a portion of the game, such as Id Software's first-episode shareware versions of many of their early first-person shooters. If there is no charge payable for any feature in a game, it's known as freeware.[/quote] https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/free-to-play [quote]Relating to or denoting an arrangement in which basic access to a game is granted without charge [b]while more advanced features must be paid for.[/b][/quote] https://www.cyberdefinitions.com/definitions/F2P.html [quote]F2P is an abbreviation used in online gaming with the meaning "Free To Play." F2P games do not require users to pay to participate. [b]However, F2P players are typically only allowed access to very basic features of the game. Upgrades to higher levels, or to gameplay-enhancing features usually have to be paid for.[/b][quote] https://www.computertechreviews.com/definition/f2p/ [quote]The term F2P, free to play, is associated with free games for users without any charges. The users can play these F2P games on their computers, smartphones, tablets, or consoles. This modality implies that everyone can try the game, [b]and if they are interested, they will end up paying for extras.[/b][/quote]

The self entitlement of you F2P players is astonishing.

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[quote]You name your game free to play yet everything cool is still behind pay walls...honestly Bungie I understand money but release DLCs going away completely, not behind some pay wall. Example: Forsaken I can't do the raids and Dungeons I want as parts of my team require the forsaken pack which costs money when you said Forsaken is free to play. By those words all of it should be free!!. The same thing for Shadowkeep after Witch Queen is halfway through its year. Also Vault Nessus, that location needs to go it is a waste of space... We literally have no reason other than Proving Grounds to go there.[/quote] OooooooHHHH NooOoOoOo I CAnnnTTTTT BuuuUyyyy ThhhhEEEEEee DllllCccsss BecUZZZ I DoNnNnttTtT hAasaVvVvVr a JkoooBBBB [quote]same energy [/quote]

Sounds like you should buy the game?

OP is whining because he refuses to pay to play the content the rest of us paid for. Must be nice to live in your "free handout world" where people can feel entitled to not earning anything. If you want to freeload, go play Apex. That might be a better suited game for you. If you want to actually play Destiny without being a leech, then fork over the money necessary. Also, learn when to use the word "literally" since you make yourself look foolish by using it incorrectly

Yeah its more free to try than free to play. I dont think thats necessarily a bad thing, but it should be called what it is IMO.

[quote]Example: Forsaken I can't do the raids and Dungeons I want as parts of my team require the forsaken pack which costs money when you said Forsaken is free to play.[/quote] I feel like this is just a failure to read on your part, because Bungie made it perfectly clear that the Forsaken campaign would be free to play and the dungeons and raids would require Forsaken or the Forsaken Pack.

Don’t ever insult Nessus like that.

The game isn't free to play. The BASE game is free to play----like every successful MMO. Everything else will cost you money.....like every successful MMO.

well you download it for free, you can play it for free, but obv a work need a reward so lmfao

Destiny isn’t free to play It’s pay to rent with a free Demo

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"Free to download" "Pay To Play"

free to play is essentially a demo version. like the demo, pitch in for the cause. don't cry about not having access to content you haven't pitched in for.

This thread looks like the perfect place to put that this game has been looking absolutely stunning in terms of visuals lately.

Its my team members have a problem... not me.. I am merely stating their problem. As for the other part of my post, which is vault Nessus next, I have been pressing that since Forsaken imminent vaulting was announced. They need to vault that crap destination next as nobody goes there anymore, we literally only went back there for Proving grounds and the battlegrounds but thats it.

Bungie said, "Only the Campaign is Free" Not their problem you did read all the way through.