180s need that buff more they are unreasonably bad in PvP if you don’t have box breathing or a damage perk.
Fun fact you can get outgunned in optimal 180 scout range by a 180 hand cannon. If you don’t believe me try it out for yourself in private matches.
theyre actully pretty balanced i feel like the only weapons in the game that are perfectly balanced as is are scouts and smgs but scouts are only lacking because the maps are so small
260s? Have you used contingency plan? Or distant relation? Those scouts actually melt in pvp and if you have the right perks, pve as well. If any scout needs a buff, it’s the slow firing, low handling scouts. All the maps this season are close range and those scouts serve no purpose in pvp and little purpose in pve
I’ve been using contingency plan recently, not even a great one, and I think it does well. I have fun with it. It almost feels like the infinite ammo of kinetic weapons is a good buff for them, because now you don’t run out of ammo.
Vex felt like it gave me the most trouble when dueling, as it just naturally has a higher ttk, a high enough range that the account didn’t have the range advantage, and they seemed unflinchable.
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