Like I posted many times, if anyone can find motivation for playing this hamster wheel good for them. I am a full blown collector player, and all i do is collect god rolls for all gear in game, when they announced my hard work was going to get an expiration date I stopped playing and likely will not return until this stupidity is 100% off the table. I find it sad and disappointing because destiny is a hobby I truly enjoy, but I cannot anymore. Every time I feel the will to login and play i remember all my playtime will be rendered useless later so i end up going to other games. Damn shame...

So wat about sunsetting ? Is the case closed ? Bungie just did it ? Is there no matter wat we think ? Wat about all the time spent farming the weapons to use the weapons ? Wat about respecting players time put in to the game ? Wat about all the hours spent to gring for a good rols for the weapons and the stats for the armors ? Having armor peaces for each slot whit each element with good and balanced stats so there are no 9ns and 8ts in the total number of points for the end overall stats for all my 3 charecters . WAT ABOUT ALL THE RESOURCES I GRINDED TO MASTERWORK THOSE WEAPONS AND ARMORS ??? Those are 45 Ascendant shards 135 Enhanced prisms and i wont even talk about all the Enhansment cores used for armors and weapons together . And now you are telling me i have to do all this again ???? I just cant .

I just got a Steel Sybil Z-14 sword drop that is identical in every way from the one in my inventory except for: • It is not masterworked • The max infuse level is 1360 instead of 1060 So, yeah, we're quite literally grinding for the [b]exact[/b] same equipment we already have. It's not "new" or "different" or "interesting".

The problem is that they pushed this idea as a way to get players to use new weapons, yet if you look on Light.gg, under the new weapons section, there are only 6 (plus the 2 new Exotics) out of 22 that are new. The rest are all recycled weapons that we already have in our vaults and character inventory. Not a great start for this crap. There's no point to Sunsetting all of our gear if they're just going to make us grind for it again. It's just an artificial grind. Laziness, as usual. There should have been at least 20 new weapons, instead, we get half a dozen, just like all the previous seasons.

Seeing the 1060 cap on some of my favorite weapons today is actually making me not want to play anymore. Raid weapons I love to use and spent tons of hours getting. Not at all happy. Pre-ordering the next expansion is def out of the question. This is probably my last season playing. Not to mention its another bounty grind to level up this garbage season. Ugh. I tried to come in to today with a positive outlook on the game and its shot all to hell right now.

I was thinking of returning to Destiny 2 after a year absence. What’s sunsetting?

This is just my thought, but D2 should have been shelved after it was determined that Activision and Bungie were going their separate ways. With the release of Armour 2.0 and Shadowkeep, this is something that should have been implemented in the next full release of Destiny. The game should have been re-branded at that point as Destiny, not as Destiny 3. If this was done, there would be no issue of Sunsetting. In many respects players are having to regrind items they already have, feels like you are starting from scratch anyways.

Sunsetting and the Vault needs to end.

It’s not what was pitched to me or what I bought into. I spent a lot of tile building my legend. Whatever my characters are shaping up to be, it’s less and less of my choosing. And the time it took to get the weapons I enjoy (which, btw, aren’t meta)? Feeling pretty burned.

They tried it in D1, it didn't work then it won't work now. Bungie has rarely, if ever, shown they can make anything viable to replace what we have. That was the straw that broke this camels back. Coupled with today's lackluster reveal, I've lost ALL faith in the company

You know what’s worse than sunsetting? New activities giving you same old weapons with higher level cap. Who knows what drug is Luke addicting to.

I previously posted that they will sunset my business. I stand by that because sunsetting creates terrible player incentives around collecting and optimizing. There’s a TED talk by Prof. Ariely from Duke’s school of business that explores the behavioral economics of human motivation. Here’s a link: https://youtu.be/5aH2Ppjpcho Sunsetting does two things wrong. First it devalues player effort and second it induces increased desire for higher “replacement wages” (here, better rewards). From an economics perspective - it would be better if Bungie designed a system that encourages players to trade in their old loot for new loot. This system would make the players feel like they have agency. Right now, Bungie is punishing end game players by forcing them into a narrow loot pool while taking the fun out of chasing god rolls. TL;DR more carrots, less sticks, better player engagement. Just think about how hyped people would be about what’s coming without this massive sunsetting bummer out there.

I personally only have a small problem with sunsetting weapons. It's been 3 years and Bungie clearly doesn't know how to design a decent meta with the weapons they already made so take the easy way out and start from scratch. It's lazy but I get it. Sunsetting armor is only showing Bungie's greed. It shows they don't care about the player base that was loyal to them the last 3 years as they continuously released lack luster content with each new season. I see zero positives in sunsetting armor, it removes diversity from the game instead of adding to it. Don't let people fool you into thinking sunsetting creates diversity. Diversity is created when new viable content is added to old viable content. Replacing isn't diversity, it's change. So the only positive that can come from sunsetting is a massive change in the game (almost as if D3 was supposed to release this year...) Hopefully the change is good but with Bungie's past actions it'll probably be more recycled content and less player appreciation. Money talks more than happiness.

Not even just D2, but Destiny in general. It just doesn't work here, Infusion was made for a reason.

i already made a feedback post about this. the net effect even before end of Worthy was, my warlock and titan didnt bother doing more than upgrade weps to 1000 where they could. the whole masterworking thing is now pointless. cores and legendary shards will not be needed - why bother busting and grinding to get them to masterwork something when in 3 months or so they will be stuck unable to be upgraded? why bother going to the forges and ADA-1 when those weapons are useless, dont have the rolls you want anyway, and you have to grind forges to get the special mod that increases damge during forge events all the time? most people will forget about forge weapons, even though my hunter loves the autorifle with ddragonfly. it looks great, love the perks - but oh, soon you wont be able to keep it where it will do damage and will have to junk all that work masterworking it. unless we get ALL the cores and shards we spent on them back EVERY time we dismantle them, most wont bother doing any masterworking. some will if like me we want kill trackers, but once at tier 6 for that, its done. and whats the point with those anyway when the weapon is going to be junk in a season or two? so eventually we wont bother at all. we will use whatever drops, and works okay ish. and plays near as enjoyable as the stuff we lost.... and if the same weapon or a more fun one drops with better tier stick a mod in and be done. maybe thats what they want - to go back to the fixed rolls on all weps and just have random mods, not have any kinds of stat trackers on weps at all. but i also said, some will start pushing really hard to be allowed to equip exotics EVERYWHERE, because then they can pick ones they enjoy playing, those CANT be nerfed to limit them to a power level, so they can have the fun enjoyable stable loadout they want. i expect another part of sunsetting is because people prefer certain kinds of weapons. my warlock loves bows and autorifles, and keeps others only to do bounties. titan is an autorifle fan. hunter runs with crimson (once ran ace of spades until crimson dropped) and autorifles, with a bow for void kills and all 4 have machine guns (titan loves thunderlord and has exotic sword for sword bounties). so my guess is, not enough love out there for shotguns (i hate them personally) snipers (not a fan beccause they dont have near enough ammo store) and trace rifles, fusion rifles (special ammo doesnt drop much and why carry useless empty weps when i can carry one uses primary and only ever run out during blind well?) short version is - they want to force people to use types of weapons they hate because, higher power than the bricked weps they love that cant be upgraded anymore. they probably do want people to try new ones - but i did so with steelfeather and the sidearm from sundial, so that does happen. otherwise, maybe they are sick of the mechanics of upgrades, and want to simplify the mat grinding economy. after all with so many planets being lost behind enemy lines in september, we wont be able to get the mats from those places to do the thing we need them for. thats part of it i think - they need to junk planets for a while and yet a lot of the mechanics depend on those materials. so those have to go too. so the whole upgrade thing will stop when it gets to needing anything other than glimmer, which we all have more than enough of. and everyone will say 'if we could equip ALL exotics, we dont have to mess around with those masterwork upgrades and dont have to use weps we hate just because we need the power and thats all that dropped for us.

Sunsetting will never work unless bungie fully transitions the game into an mmo/rpg where our builds are centered around our character instead of our gear. As long as gear is the sole factor in determining our power and builds, sunsetting won’t work and will only lead to disappointment and lower player counts.