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10/18/2019 2:50:01 PM
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Yeah. I am. I'm not so naive to think I need new new new all the time. Sometimes just a twist is ok. I have new ib gear. I can live without rolling for a random orimuds andvil for a bit.
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Well every iron banner in every DLC has had new weapons to grind for. This isnt a twist. Its lazy.
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Dude I have a ton of the game to play, a ton of weapons to go after, a raid to run now that I'm high enough. I think with all the other stuff it's fine. Stop being a spoiled little one and looking for the one bad apple in the bunch.
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One bad apple? Strikes still have no specific loot Nightmare hunts are essentially useless and provide no unique loot Crucible has one new weapon Vanguard has one new weapon Gambit has one new weapon Gunsmith has no new weapons Iron banner got no new weapons That's a lot of bad apples if you ask me
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[quote]One bad apple? Strikes still have no specific loot Nightmare hunts are essentially useless and provide no unique loot Crucible has one new weapon Vanguard has one new weapon Gambit has one new weapon Gunsmith has no new weapons Iron banner got no new weapons That's a lot of bad apples if you ask me[/quote] Yet there are a bunch of new weapons from vex offensive and on the moon, new mods added to some old guns, all armor is viable now, and there are things that unlock week by week. If you aren't satisfied fine, but quit your whining just because it's not 10/10 for you. You won't use all the weapons. I don't know if you even raid. You will play with some, find what you like, and play with some more. This new new bs is getting annoying. Sure, new is nice. New is also not easy to make in a timely fashion.
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Edited by !!!!dA_B3ASTLY_b3ar!!!!: 10/18/2019 4:30:24 PMYeah no shit I wont use all the guns but everyone uses the same shit now anyways. Variety in a loot game is kinda nice. And it's not whining. Its facts. The numbers prove that. And when you say a lot of new weapons on the moon and Vex offensive I kinda laugh. Eris has plenty no doubt. But the endgame activity on the moon has zero. An endgame activity. And Vex offensive is a joke. You can get all the guns from that in one run. And if you play more than 3 runs you can probably get the exact roll you want too. Zero variety. Oh and they're also exact curse of Osiris weapons
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But nothing. Fact is it doesn't matter. Get over it. And I'm aware those are coo weapons. I loved that look.
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Why should I get over it? This was supposed to be "Rise of Iron Plus" in bungie's words. It's not even close to that
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GET. OVER. IT.
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Damn kid. Who the hell pissed in your cheerios? NO. I. WON'T. L.M.A.O
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No you're using it wrong. It's who pissed in your cereal this morning. And it's this annoying trend of I need new all the time.
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OH WOW! Thanks smartass I dont really care LOL! That's about the only useful thing you've said. It's a new DLC. We should expect new. It's not a hard concept.
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[quote]OH WOW! Thanks smartass I dont really care LOL! That's about the only useful thing you've said. It's a new DLC. We should expect new. It's not a hard concept.[/quote] No, it seems to be, because dolts like you seem to think new content must always have a bunch of new everything. But you know what, this ain't getting anywhere. Sunshine, take care.
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Okay see ya snowflake. Melt away with my facts
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No that's your opinion. And FYI...I'm not the one acting like an entitled snowflake 🙃
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Not entitlement. Its expectations. Its relying on the company's word of it being "Rise of Iron Plus". And what I'm arguing is not opinion. They're facts. And here they are again. Actual numbers are not...and I repeat...ARE NOT opinions. IRON BANNER: Rise of Iron (6-10 not sure) > Shadowkeep (0) NEW WORLD DROPS: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep CRUCIBLE WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1) VANGUARD WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1) NEW MONARCHY: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) FWC: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) DEAD ORBIT: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) TRIALS: Rise of Iron (7) > Shadowkeep (0) STRIKE SPECIFIC LOOT: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep ARCHON'S FORGE vs. NIGHTMARE HUNTS+VEX OFFENSIVE: Rise of Iron (2) < Shadowkeep (4) RAID: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (7)
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[quote]Not entitlement. Its expectations. Its relying on the company's word of it being "Rise of Iron Plus". And what I'm arguing is not opinion. They're facts. And here they are again. Actual numbers are not...and I repeat...ARE NOT opinions. IRON BANNER: Rise of Iron (6-10 not sure) > Shadowkeep (0) NEW WORLD DROPS: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep CRUCIBLE WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1) VANGUARD WEAPONS: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (1) NEW MONARCHY: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) FWC: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) DEAD ORBIT: Rise of Iron (6) > Shadowkeep (0) TRIALS: Rise of Iron (7) > Shadowkeep (0) STRIKE SPECIFIC LOOT: Rise of Iron > Shadowkeep ARCHON'S FORGE vs. NIGHTMARE HUNTS+VEX OFFENSIVE: Rise of Iron (2) < Shadowkeep (4) RAID: Rise of Iron (10) > Shadowkeep (7)[/quote] Rise of iron was good all of a week. Now you're looking through rose colored glasses. Remind me: exactly how many reskins of weapons and armor there were that year? If I remember correctly...a ton. Adepts were reskins. In fact, the EXACT SAME WEAPON. We had one content drop....that was it. Shadowkeep also has a continuous story...which...remind me how long was rise of irons? THATS fact. Rise of iron kept me for a week. Maybe 2 weeks. Shadowkeep? I'm still curious what's coming next.
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Reskins or not they still gave us weapons at least in rise of iron. Now they give us the bare minimum and say it's a drip feed when it really isnt. They should have added new weapons and dripped more in as time went along. And shadowkeep story isnt going to keep everyone playing. Not everyone is in it for the story. I am. But not everyone. I can be interested in what's coming next but not want to play because of no meaningful rewards from activities. Theres only so many times I can get s Better Devils...
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Edited by Hatter: 10/19/2019 5:45:07 PM[quote]Reskins or not they still gave us weapons at least in rise of iron. Now they give us the bare minimum and say it's a drip feed when it really isnt. They should have added new weapons and dripped more in as time went along. And shadowkeep story isnt going to keep everyone playing. Not everyone is in it for the story. I am. But not everyone. I can be interested in what's coming next but not want to play because of no meaningful rewards from activities. Theres only so many times I can get s Better Devils...[/quote] 🤦♂️ Majority were reskins, and they gave ZERO story. Rewards were mostly rewards everyone got before. How in the world can you defend that over shadowkeep I....don't understand. Story is a big deal and a driver of the game. Loot? Sure. But we already have a ton of loot to go after. No dude, rise of iron, other than the raid, was worse. And even that might not compare to gos. I haven't done it yet though so IDK....YET.
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[quote][quote]Reskins or not they still gave us weapons at least in rise of iron. Now they give us the bare minimum and say it's a drip feed when it really isnt. They should have added new weapons and dripped more in as time went along. And shadowkeep story isnt going to keep everyone playing. Not everyone is in it for the story. I am. But not everyone. I can be interested in what's coming next but not want to play because of no meaningful rewards from activities. Theres only so many times I can get s Better Devils...[/quote] 🤦♂️ Majority were reskins, and they gave ZERO story. Rewards were mostly rewards everyone got before. How in the world can you defend that over shadowkeep I....don't understand. Story is a big deal and a driver of the game. Loot? Sure. But we already have a ton of loot to go after. No dude, rise of iron, other than the raid, was worse. And even that might not compare to gos. I haven't done it yet though so IDK....YET.[/quote] They at least gave us new stuff. How many more times in a loot game can I get a better Devils or play of the game and have it be fun to get? Common sense man. How can you actually defend shadowkeep...I just...oh god...LMAO. theres nothing new to chase. The math is clearly listed in my original post. Shadowkeep and Season of the Undying combined have not even half the loot Rise of Iron had. And once again in Bungie's words: "This is going to be Rise of Iron Plus". Wheres the plus? Why play new things if theres nothing attached to them? Loot game+New DLC= New Loot At least in D1 there were vendors with weapons to chase. They had at minimum 10 weapons in a major DLC. This one they all have 1. That's embarrassing
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I...I can't with you. You're looking at d1 through rose colored glasses and don't even see everything shadowkeep has in comparison to roi. Only thing you see is only a portion of the game. Fine. You can keep your opinion dude, I don't care anymore. I'm just gonna agree to disagree. Bye. If you miss it, d1 is still there.
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Rose colored glasses my ass. D1 had vendors with options. D2 has activities with no unique rewards. Theres not a healthy balance. They're too busy making activities and keeping us "busy" and not worrying about what makes a looter shooter a looter shooter. This is a sequel. It should build off of and improve. Not downgrade.
