Move Telesto to heavy only after banning shotguns from PvP. Oh and 1000 voices too. Hmmm, I also hate Luna's Howl (I think I got killed by it once). Ace, Crimson, and Male(adjusted questline) HC's yeah, they killed me to so move or remove them too, I saw someone with a GL again last weekend - yep move or remore that puppy too people hated it a couple months back. Of course now with have Bygones which is doing some damage. Nerf and move that bugger as well. I do like killing myself with Coil so make that a primary ammo gun so I can commit suicide more often. If I missed someones whining please forgive me its been a long day but I'm sure we can get Bungie to nerf, move, or remove those weapons, supers, grenades, or whatever kills you once in a match too.

If it's moved to Heavy, then it needs a massive buff in both PvE and PvP. If it stays Special, then it needs some sort of rebalancing or maybe indicators to make the projectiles more obvious when nearby(i.e. grenade indicators). Possibly a range and/or stability reduction to make it harder to crossmap(range affects the travel time of Fusion Rifles, so the bolts wouldn't travel as fast, as well as spread out faster). I think most can agree that it(along with many other D1 Exotic Special/Heavy weapons) are much more powerful/potent than they were in the previous game. To my knowledge, when Bungie changed the weapon system again, they nerfed the damage on Special weapons in both PvE and PvP(though Sniper bodyshot damage is the same in PvP). But Telesto was unaffected by these changes(in PvP, as it probably does less damage than it did in PvE since it's an Energy weapon now), which is why it's still a 4-bolt kill with a fast charge time.

Let me take a wild guess, you are constantly getting killed by Telesto whilst running in a straight line at them with your shotty out.

No you're a full on shotgun ape, you'll just bitch about Erentil next.

Let me guess... You're a crucibaby!.. Am I right?

-looks at your characters- Hmm, 2 Bygones. And All 3 characters have Badlander... I'm beginning to see why you hate the telesto now.

Bygones is used by over 10% of people in crucible. Telesto... ? I don’t know because it doesn’t even make the list of most used weapons. Definitely below 4% is all I can say with certainty. Let’s see what you have equipped... well, wouldya look at that... you have Bygones equipped on your 2 main characters. How interesting. What’s your opinion on Bygones?

... Yeah, no, just no, here's an easy list of ways to counter Telesto... 1. Chaperone 2. Trust 3. Dust Rock 4. Mindbender's Ambition 5. Retold Tale 6. Git Gud 7. Stop Whining 8. Redrix's Claymore, or Broadsword [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]

Show us on the doll where telesto stuck you

As someone who is in legend for glory and consider the top 1% I could not agree anymore. You don’t know how many games I’ve played where we will completely destroy a team round one for them to just switch to telesto round two and win with little to no skill (YOU LITERALLY AIM AT THE FEET) all fusions are pretty annoying it’s just the fact that telesto has no range drop off, the only people that like telesto are the people that say shotguns have no skill because they get rolled by teams better then them every game.

It really should be heavy. Don't listen to these people. As soon as they hear nerf or change they go ballistic. People be like "lul it ruins it for pve" WHO uses telsto in pve as their exotic? So many more optimal options. I was tired of getting shafted by teams of people running this in comp so I decided to try it out. WOW is it a power increase just slapping this thing on. I went on a 5 game win streak after equipping it. It opens up so many options and really shines in most comp game modes. If you play safely and sneaky it pretty much guarantees 2 kills per spawn. I basically made my playstyle into - kill 2 unsuspecting opponents from range with telesto, steal their ammo, repeat. All you have to do is sight line someone for a second, then dodge or run away as they die. It is so safe and so easy to do even under pressure from the enemy team. I KNOW I made some people super mad with the cheesy kills I was getting. It is insanely powerful on the flank because it is a one shot from stupid range with almost no aiming. People can't react when they are ads and don't have radar because by the time they realize they got hit with it they are dead. They won't be alerted to you like if you were shooting them with a hc or bygones. You can also get double kills with ONE shot (let's see a shotgun or sniper do that) You can also spray it on corners or heavy to set deadly traps for people. You can hang back, push with it like a shotgun, ect. The thing is too versatile and too powerful to be a special. Argument is that it is indeed an exotic, and luna/NF are superior weapon choices for energy slot. But I'm with you man. Telesto is a powerhouse weapon that actually DOES have a skill gap which is honestly terrifying. I submitted and will use that thing till I hit fabled. Then I will finish the luna quest. If it was heavy you could even run it WITH luna which would be nasty. Should be moved to heavy slot. We need a heavy fusion besides 1k voices anyway. Idk why that is such a bad idea. There would be less wardcliff in comp too. Moving telsto to heavy would be a healthy choice for pvp. The 1 pve player who uses telsto can go cry himself to sleep.

No...we use it in PVE. Just ban every exotic from PVP. Of course Bungie just listen to PVP user that's why they make Y1 D2 Turned out to be disaster. We in PVE already suffer to have 1 rocket per mag...make us wasting our age to reload it. All because PVP balancing idiocracy.

they need to move queensbreaker bow to the energy slot