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Edited by Spawn:
8/3/2018 11:15:36 PM
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PVP blows
Welcome to the Crucible, where you will get absolutely wrecked by indestructible arc striders, graviton lances, and vigilance wings. Also, you'll be expertly "matched" playing against actual fireteams of friends and clan mates that play together all the time while you play with a bunch of random campers who don't understand how to play Control.
Enjoy,
The A$$hats at Bunjie
[spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses.
Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]
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#feedback
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What's funny about this is all the things people are complaining about were a thing before 6vs6 (except spawns) but because the system made it where bad players could win half the time and go positive wasn't a problem. This event has brought out some gems in this community. People act ike every game they are getting matched against elite players. You ain't, most of your games will be with and against average players. If you are struggling so bad you can't compete with average players with any regularity then this is exactly the change you need. Playing other bad players isn't going to help you. We are seeing it right now because people can't hang with the field. That's what happens when you get matched up with scrubs every game. This current system needs to get a focus on Connection create more spawn points on maps. Players really struggling right now need to get in their and adjust. Are you really satisfied with being a 1.0 50% win player? I think that's what irritates me the most is anout 75% of this community has no clue how good they actually are. The old system didn't even work right. People got matched against better players all the time but because it would drop you a win to keep you near 50% everyone was ok with it. You're in a round robin now and in a few months your stats will be a better reflection of hw good you actually are.
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Edited by METALGOD1990: 8/4/2018 4:35:41 PMThey are basically sadists at Bungie. They create a system where less than 2% of the population gets a reward. Penalty points in competitive are too punishing. With the match making as it is now, it is even more ridiculous. Basically they like to see people decay on their couch to get something.
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Worst sequel in gaming history.
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3 RepliesI agree PVP just isn't fun right now. Team shotting - yes, it's an issue when you play 6 v 6 in maps designed for 4 v 4. TTK - I never get the ongoing quest to reduce TTK to silly levels. In reality it means very often in PVP you just get nuked by someone from half the map away before you can flinch, let alone counter play. Sure, in rare occasions you'll maybe get to try a solid one v one, but those occasions are far outweighed by the earlier scenario or by being team shotted. Weapon balance - there's not really one. GW and VW rule. Now yes, I know you can use specific weapons to counter them but when the overwhelmingly vast majority of players is flocking around 2 specific weapons like flies on sh** then that's a clear indication something isn't 'balanced'. I bet bungee has loads of stats on weapon useage/kills etc in PVP and if we ever got to see them it would just look ridiculous. Matching - or lack thereof, means you're often matched with players with much higher pvp ranking than you. I don't even get why there's debate about why this is a good thing? Unless you're one of the higher ranked players and just want to feed on easy kills. I'm not even going to start on competitive. I'd have loved to tried for redrixs' this season but comp is even more of a mess of stacked teams and teams with leavers. I'd love to be more into PVP but as it stands I can barely just stomach PVP for objectives. I don't even do the PVP milestone anymore.
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1 ReplyEdited by Guardian3681: 8/3/2018 1:27:10 PMMixed reviews for me. I personally do really well. Since SBMM was changed my kda has increased from 1.65 to 1.8. But while I perform well, I usually find myself on a losing team so I can't say that I've loved the new changes. I will say that SBMM is probably the more fair route to take with regards to the community as a whole.
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There are some problems. Like today, I finished one Crucible game and was ported into another wondering why everyone else had their supers up (I don't PVP much at all), and I was getting annihlated. Turns out I joined a motley, half-full team that was getting wiped out by a full compliment on the other side. Stuck it out for while but as soon as someone joined someone else would leave so we never got above 4 people. I was trying to get the Solstice of Heroes armour achievement thing - kills with supers in PVP, but at the rate I was going it would take 30 PVP events to make the achievement. With three characters I just don't have the time for that nonsense.
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Its not the weapons or being put up against full firearms that makes crucible suck anymore. 1) Lag, its unbearable since the last update. I get tired of unloading a full clip into someone to have it do ZERO damage and then get o,e shot killed. 2) Most maps are meant for 4v4, having 6v6 just breaks the map and respawning becomes an absurd joke. 3) The matchmaking is broken, it always seems to put me with WAY under skilled players while loadi,g the other team with crucible gods. The o,e sided matches are getting ducking old fast. This is honestly the most broken I've seen either of the Destiny games, even pve is glitch and weird after the update.
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Edited by Demon_XXVII: 8/3/2018 10:29:16 PMEvery god damn guardian I've faced in QP owes me a beer (or cash equivalents) for helping contribute to their 'super kills' requirements 😆 Seems like every corner I turned was met with a glitchinlagswitchinbitchin opponent who'd just happened to have activated Hammertime/PrancerDancer/Palpatine
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10 RepliesOnly the bottom 10% of players hate this current matchmaking. This makes sense because 90% of the people you play are better than you. This is an incredible opportunity to improve your gameplay. Changing the matchmaking will not make you any better.
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3 RepliesLol at all you whiners. If you are constantly getting a .50kda on every game then it's on you regardless if you are playing "THE TOP 500" or whatever. There are bad players on the other team as well. If you are getting a .50kda then you are the reason that your team is losing.
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They should let teams stick together for crucible and strikes. It was fun in D1 playing with the same players over a few matches or strikes. People can get to know other players strengths and weaknesses and gel as a team. Also creates unity and sometimes friending a player if u are doing well together! Not sure why Bungie thought breaking up teams was a good idea every match. Not sure if it would help from people leaving matches all the time but ya never know! Used to love D1 crucible going in solo and being able to compete but just can stomach the thought of playing D2 pvp at this time. More constant sandbox changes would also help to keep things fresh and interesting!
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8 RepliesEdited by TheShadow-cali: 8/3/2018 12:18:39 AMSo, you played today. Got it! Edit: I wonder what's worse. Bungie creating a game mode that is so-so. Or Gamers complaining about how the game mode is so-so but keeps playing it. [spoiler]Hmm.[/spoiler]
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I've actually enjoyed the "broken" matchmaking. I'm by no means a god in the crucible, but for whatever reason my stats have improved significantly since the change. If I had to change 1 thing it would just be graviton. Even if the fix was to buff other scout rifles to similar TTKs I'd be fine with that. As it stands there is almost nothing that can even come close to competing with it from range.
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4 RepliesThe solution is so incredibly simple. Fix the stupid weapon slot so there is some actual variation in setups. Fix the stupid idea of making special weapon ammo a rare thing. Then instead of nerfing everything into the ground you just bring other things up a little bit to even it out. Bungie balances like a teenage girl. You sneeze wrong and instead of getting a tissue they burn every house on the block and then don't understand when everyone says they went too far with it. The gear is total junk which doesn't help at all. Plus there is no real reward for playing so people who don't usually like PVP don't bother because you don't actually get worthwhile gear drops for completing a match, so there is less variety in players. You have either a hand cannon, autorifle, scout rifle, or sub which is just an auto rifle but worse. Literally 3.5 guns to choose from and everything else is heavy. Most of the Supers are becoming the same as all the others so there is no different approach to playing the game. You either have something you throw that has an area damage effect, or a staff you flop around with, GG is basically like throwing something but without an area effect. Titan doesn't have a bubble so it's just a dinky wall that you can jump over so that is a big down grade. Knives and Grenades have been nerfed into nothingness so it's just a primary gun shootout with no variation and shitty balancing between literally 3 guns. I don't understand how you can take the end of D1 where it was actually not too bad, and somehow get to what we have now.
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3 RepliesOh my god. I’m so torn. The majority likes the current crucible, and I think it’s wrong to force them to change it just for the people like me who get like only 16 kills a game
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I for one enjoy the crimson more than any weapon. I dont get any satisfaction from using grav lance , the weapon has infinite range and aim assistance. Crimson is good while being balanced
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No, Bose. My father's stereo is a Bose!
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Destiny blows in general
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I had pretty much written off crucible in Destiny the last 6 months, but it’s actually been really fun this last week. I’m sure trials is probably still a mess. Maybe I will actually play this weekend and see...
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Waaahhhhhh.....Mom, these guys aren’t playing the game like me!!! Reeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
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1 ReplyWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh Cry baby. Git gud
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i think it’s fun
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So you pointed 4 things out. [b]scrub teammates[/b], stale [b]meta[/b], arcstrider [b]meta[/b]and [b]odd chance[/b]of getting matched against a 3+stack. Scrub teammates: I thought the problem was playing AGAINST good players. Lul Meta: 3 weeks till potentially and most likely new meta. 3+ stack: is that the problem or ur scrub teammates lol, it rarely happens, its quickplay who cares, get gud
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I strongly disagree. I tried it and D2 PvP sucks
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I disagree, I was doing fine yesterday doing solo games and using the crimson
