I main titan and i think the subclasses are in a good place right now, but Sunbreaker....... they nerfed it so hard that its not even useful in pve. In pvp I dont even try sometimes, the armor needs to be a little higher not like it used to and make the blast radius bigger, but this is my opinion.

Even though it doesn't really matter, [i]I've been a dedicated Titan main both in PvE and PvP since Beta[/i]. Let me tell you that, yes, it does suck... pretty bad, to have for two years now, been the weakest class in PvP. I will say, though, that when you say Striker's and Defender's have the most useless of grenades, well, that's not entirely true. Lightning Grenades and Suppressor Grenades are two of the best grenades in the game when used correctly, as they both require a bit of skill and thought before using - much unlike the Bolt grenades. Storm Fist actually does significantly more damage than any other melee in upfront damage (182), but still requires a small source of other damage to confirm a kill, and it lacks range and other abilities (Shockwave doesn't work in PvP). I will say, as well, that the whole Sunbreaker ordeal... well, all of us dedicated Titan's told these forums what was going to happen if they got nerfed. The only nerf that Sunbreaker's needed was their Damage Reduction while mid-super. But, no, Bungie decided to go [b]ALL-OUT[/b] with the nerfs.. they nerfed; -Damage of each Hammer -Explosion Radius of each Hammer -Number of Hammers Thrown -Amount of Agility on Class -Reduced the 'Curving' ability from Perk -Put 'Cauterize' on a 3 Second Cooldown (Despite Bladedancer's having no cooldown on Hungering Blade) -Reduced the amount & duration that Melting Point burns for. -Reduced the amount of Damage Mitigation Hammer of Sol provided They threw all these nerfs on to the Sunbreaker with the only patch they did to update this subclass, and effectively, ran the subclass in to the ground, and nailed the coffin. Now we are stuck with primarily playing Strikers, like we have been for nearly two years.

Have you met met their buffed lightning grenades and how their grenade throw is always perfect when there not even looking at you and they striker you when you are 15 feet above them or away from their blast

I main a titan. Even I am not that stupid. *I punch and kick things with glory*

At least all of our supers work. Night stalker takes forever to shut down a super and blade dancer barely ever registers and can be easily shut down with one shot gun blast.

I like the titan character. My fave to play but yes, weakest in terms of perks, melee, etc. Still, I love playing as a titan. I also have a Hunter that I made... Very fun as well and I totally love Tripmine grenades

Must be embarrassing when I destroy you in PvP then

For the most part we suck ass but let me help you out.. Armor of light bubble, magnetic nades, armamentarium, max intellect and discipline, bastion (bubble lasts longer), untouchable (reduced cool down on bubble) Had so many games where I get a my bubble like 1 min in the game, and have a bubble up somewhere the rest of the match, literally having them charged up before the last one is down, I can't get 6-7 supers a game with any other class, though obviously to get that many you need to be demolishing, but you can get 3 damn near standing still and 4 pretty easily Striker & Sunbreaker= booty hole

Get on you tube and watch any fun police videos.

You have shoulder charge which is a 1 hit kill and a melee attack no one else has a 1 hit kill melee attack!!

Yea bud, I don't know what you are doing wrong but you should take a class or something. They have great grenades. Magnetic grenades are the best stickies in game. It's the only class with suppression grenades and flash bangs. lightening grenades are awesome. It is also the only class with an armor that gives you two of ANY grenade. Yea, HoS is nowhere near the God mode it used to be but it's still as good if not better than blade dancer. Defender is all but timing. I've changed the whole course of games with that class. I shut down supers and deny the other team heavy on multiple occasions. I may not get as many kills but Im doing support, hence the name. You are definitely doing something wrong.