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Edited by Cyrus:
11/21/2014 12:50:22 AM
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Okay fellas it's pretty simple, we want two flags... not 3
Please, ALL OF YOU, Stop trying to capture all 3 flags if you're not in a fireteam of 6.
When I'm with my Fireteam, we can capture all 3 flags and earn a crapton of XP (about 325 per kill) because of domination.
Now even though that's a nice thing to aim for ...
[b]IT'S NOT THE GOAL [/b]
The goal is control. COntrol means to control the enemy team. Keeping them on their one flag. We get too close, we don't control.
Whenever I go solo I see all of you, ALL OF YOU, go for the third flag like it's the holyland. Please, unless you and your friends are coordinated and playing together, don't go for the third flag. Please.
Seriously, PLEASE.
In fact if you guys want a tip for solo , chill back at the furthest flag, theres always someone trying to sneak around to take it. Steady points.
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Super Good Advice.
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Edited by Barbatos: 11/21/2014 3:24:59 AMThank you! That's the main reason why I've lost 90% of my Iron Banner matches. Match starts and hardly anyone goes for the nearest flag. Two of us go to the nearest flag and everyone else splits up and goes for the others. I'm not the best PvP player, in fact I suck. My aim and reaction time is horrible (been practicing and slowing improving) but I make up for it by thinking tactically, learning the map layout and paying attention to radar. It's sad seeing fellow high levels with far superior PvP skills than me lack these qualities and treat Control as Clash. This is especially frustrating in Iron Banner where you have to win in order to rank up.
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3 RepliesTo me , the worst part is that people who rush to get the third flag all the time end up changing the spawn of the other team all the time , so if are for instance protecting the flag , or playing in a more conservative way - to me that is the right way to play control in a balanced match - you get caught by other team with your dick in your hand.
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Lol, glad I'm not the only one this annoys, I'll be guarding a point thinking: ok good, we have 2, no one go near the third. 5 seconds later I see the icon start to turn blue.
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Edited by JDn3D: 11/21/2014 2:57:24 AMControl gives bonuses to kills mostly. Kills are what really count. I agree about the strange compulsion people have to capture them all.
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4 RepliesTake two points and patrol the choke points between the two of them. Some maps it's even easier when you realize what point is the most fought after point, you just camp in it and take out stuff as it comes along. Taking the third zone is usually stupid and allows for you to give the other team an advantage because of the spawn flipping. I've seen games where one team is up 15k to 10k and they lose because someone got the bright idea of getting the third zone and the spawn flipped. Blind Watch on Mars, for example, patrol B and C and completely ignore A as if it doesn't exist. If you start on A you might as well take it to start and then beeline the team over to C to flip the spawn. If you don't control B and C on Blind Watch for the majority of the match, you will not win.
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1 ReplyI read the subject and thought " hell yeah, someone else wants ctf" .... derp
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The Holy Land...love it, that made me laugh
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Preach it!
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Amen brother...try and grab the one that gets you an advantage on the middle (most maps have that) and forget about the third flag!
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YESSSSS!!! I hate getting paired with kids who have to go for the third all the time. Or they just wanna hold one cap point. Or none at all....
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Edited by JUNGLISTJ: 11/21/2014 2:10:45 AMAgreed. The few shooters I do play, this is the only mode I play in- I hate how unorganised other modes are! Domination has clear battle lines and even when playing on your own it's easy to see where you're needed. Killzone games are the best example- on ANY map, A or C, one of them is more favourable to cap THEN work on B. Hold positions, watch the flanks, win the game... Well said sir. I think the trouble recently is that EVERYBODY plays cod (love it or hate it) and they have the cod mentality of kills are more important than anything else (quite selfish). Cod for example, you have players that enter Dom because they know where the enemy is going to likely be and try to up their kill score and couldn't give a f**k about the objective. Those of the latter, AW has been out since 4/11... Just sayin'. As you were. I actually like me some cod btw.
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Solution: Nerf/ban flags.
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1 ReplyWait, I thought the goal is to capture 10 capture points in one game? At least that's what the bounty system encourages players to do. Why play 3-4 games when you can get this done in one by headless chickening it.
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Worst is when you have a 5 man team and the 1 pulls that shit
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Please. I agree with Biply. Please people. Please! PLEASE! [i]PLEASE![/i] [b] PLEASE![/b]
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Edited by EmptyFiber: 11/21/2014 1:58:51 AMDon't forget to mention to stop freaking capping the hard to reach/control bases. Whenever I start out on Alpha team in the Rusted Lands and someone caps C I want to murder them.
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You know this makes complete and utter sense. As a formerWoW player we used to protect or captures. Now I see constant scrambling to conquer the one base we don't have. Makes total sense.
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Worst part about having all three flags is the random spawning. It's meant to be impossible to defend all three properly without coordination. And those that go for the third rarely coordinate.
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Those who can control all 3 are pretty badass tho
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Bump for being totally correct Idk why people think they need to take all 3 do that mess when we're up by like 5000 or more points otherwise just chill. Take your two zones and earn that victory.
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Simple but effective, I'll try next time
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5 RepliesAgreed. Especially on Blind Watch, where A spawn is -blam!-ing useless, and holding C&B is a guaranteed win. That's what she said.
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Yes! So sick of this as well. If you get greedy and try and take the third you end up losing sometimes both flags due to switching spawns!
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I can't even begin to count how many times I raged out at this (even been quite verbal with my headset)... I've lost more than enough matches to a point 5 medalions doesn't even recover my loses. People ALWAYS rush the third flag, it's anoying. I can only take solace in the fact that I'm almost done... and won't even touch this event again. If anyone here has already crossed paths with me in the Iron Banner, I apologise upfront for my behaviour.
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Domination game modes in CoD and BF completely ruined the concept of what Control should be for most people. I'm convinced most people refuse to understand the basic concept behind Control. I can't imagine that many people are just that stupid. Could be that they are though... Sigh.
