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5/13/2023 2:39:54 PM
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CBMM is stomp mode w the worst connections
Supremacy feels absolute abhorrent.
First of all, the connections are horrible. CBMM just means some weird randomisation of the MM process. It is most definitely not connection-based.
Secondly, I don’t know how many times I have read this nonsense from people who clearly just don’t want to play at their level and want to stomp people. The matches are always two ascendant emblems cleaning the place up on their arc titans and the rest struggling to go positive. This is what CBMM is good for. That these dudes can have a 4+ kd. It has literally no other purpose.
This whole discussion is the biggest charade I’ve ever witnessed. If you play Supremacy and you feel the connections are good, I don’t know what planet you’re on. The only explanation I can think of is that your opponents are so bad that you don’t suffer from the horrible connections as much as everyone else.
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I just want Solo/Freelance option back given up on either matchmaking..
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25 RepliesEdited by Neuro Pixel: 5/14/2023 9:04:39 AMThe ones who like to stomp are just too scared to play others at their own skill level .. They will always look to use the CBMM argument but seeing I have personally worked with Networks in my job for 25 years they are just not telling the truth it just have zero ideas about networking in general. They know that they will openly abuse this mode in pvp and stomp weaker players just to boost their KD … Bungie know it yet won’t do anything about it.. Best thing is players just abandon pvp and watch it die .. The very small minority who are toxic will refuse to play others of the same skill level when they are forced to because no one is left to play .. Bungie and just pandering to the streamers and content creators but when no one is playing PVP anymore the streamers won’t be around and good riddance ..
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3 RepliesMy connections have been great. Lobby balance has been sh1te, and the lack of a mercy rule seems like an egregious oversight. Have played some very close competitive matches, so absolute whitewashes both for and against, been the king in some lobbies and had my cheeks clapped in others. I’m having a good time overall.
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Oh I’m sorry, did someone remove your baby bumpers? The games been out for nearly a decade. If you haven’t taken the time to get better by now, you never will. Stop playing pvp and move on.
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9 RepliesPlayed 5 matches - will never touch again. Anything CBMM - I'm out. I play games for fun and this is furthest from it it can possibly be.
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5 RepliesWait until next season. No pinnacles mean that pve players will completely avoid the pvp “experience” Then the crying will really start as only the hardcore pvp players will be effectively at sbmm anyway.
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I’m sorry, but you are a below average pvp player. 0.83 lifetime KD, but you blame the game.
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18 RepliesIt’s actually revitalized the game for many of us. I can play with my friends across all skill levels again. Honestly the only pro SBMM arguments I see are from solo players who just Bungie to cater to their every wish. Just seems like angry people.
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6 RepliesQuickplay should be CB, Comp should be Rank based, and Trials should be CB with card based matchmaking
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10 RepliesYep. Pure CBMM is so the sub skilled can feel better.
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12 RepliesThese CBMM playlist have been amazing to have around. Feels good playing casually in a casual game mode. Almost like that’s exactly why casual game modes exist. Now all we gotta do is get rid of SBMM in competitive and replace it with ranked base matchmaking so we can have an actual competitive playlist with difficult matches and meaningful ranks. SBMM is a failure of a system. It’s too strict for casual game modes and too lose for competitive game modes. Keep it out of video games.
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3 RepliesI’m having fun for the first time in 6 months and I’m able to relax and talk with my buddies and not hate my life every game
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11 RepliesWell that is what the streamers and elitists wanted, “we don’t want to sweat and we can’t create any content because we suck at our own level”. If they can’t stomp new players and lower skilled players then the pacifier gets thrown on the floor and and we have another basement dweller tantrum.
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6 RepliesIte always the worse players who hardly even touch pvp that complain about cbmm... It's always those who are good or play pvp daily that want cbmm... Either way someone is crying and throwing there own biased opinion out.
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3 RepliesI 100% agree with the stomp BS. While my connections have never really been bad at any point, even with SBMM, the absolutely ABSURD lobby balancing that's going on now is completely one-sided! I always play solo, and without the freelance pool in place, I'm regularly thrown into matches against 4-stacks now... F-ING 4-STACKS EVERY SINGLE DAMN MATCH!! A good while back during the early CBMM period, I would regularly get absolutely wrecked every game. Never came off the bottom of the roster, and served as nothing more than a punching bag for crucible sweats that don't have real jobs that contribute to society. SBMM gets implemented and I was playing top tier for my skill bracket. It felt good to actually contribute to my team and be a functional asset during matches. However, we're right back at square one with the joke of an experience that's going on now. Crucible is once again dead to me and serves as nothing more than the ego-stroking playground of a bunch of simpletons.
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2 RepliesI find it funny that people who are in favor of connection based matchmaking always say the queue times are shorter and there isn’t lag. So far, all I’m seeing are long queue times, teleporting players, and totally lopsided matches. Bungie doesn’t know what they are doing. This is not connection based. It’s garbage!
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Stop playing it. I played it the first day and realized how one sided the matches were. Some games were won, and i think most were lost. I decided i wasn’t having fun in supremacy.
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I agree, Supremacy MM is trash, I stopped playing it
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2 RepliesFor most players, SBMM is necessary to have a fun experience I'm a little surprised at how many players have been praising the improved connection quality. Personally, I haven't noticed any difference
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[quote]First of all, the connections are horrible[/quote] Issue at your end if you keep getting poor connections game after game, the majority of the matches are fine for me connection-wise (hardwired PS5 with ports open, on a stable fibre connection). Its one sided because fireteam size cant really be factored into the matchmaking, and proper teambalancing cant really be a thing when they require a certain class on each team. If you are playing the regular variant then i sort of understand, depending on the time of day that has been much worse for me which probably comes down to a populatiom issue since it is not the default option when you choose Supremacy.
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1 Reply[quote]Supremacy feels absolute abhorrent. First of all, the connections are horrible. CBMM just means some weird randomisation of the MM process. It is most definitely not connection-based. Secondly, I don’t know how many times I have read this nonsense from people who clearly just don’t want to play at their level and want to stomp people. The matches are always two ascendant emblems cleaning the place up on their arc titans and the rest struggling to go positive. This is what CBMM is good for. That these dudes can have a 4+ kd. It has literally no other purpose. This whole discussion is the biggest charade I’ve ever witnessed. If you play Supremacy and you feel the connections are good, I don’t know what planet you’re on. The only explanation I can think of is that your opponents are so bad that you don’t suffer from the horrible connections as much as everyone else.[/quote] Sounds like a playstation experience. I loaded up game on ps5 and every match was a lag fest. I unplugged ps5 and tossed it into a corner, then fired up the series X. Instant gratification. Mvp every game and a lot less lag. Ps is inferior platform, the service PsN lags and the users on PlayStation seem to be of poorer quality and also lag. Xbox live? Fast and responsive. If u disagree I think you must have never tried both and compared!
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Bungie cbmm isn't ping based it's whoever is closest to your router in que.
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Edited by CannyJack: 5/14/2023 3:37:26 AMI’ve seen little difference in connection or lag issues in either mode but I’m among the vast group of average players. There’s always people at my skill level nearby so SBMM works fabulously for me since I don’t have connection issues anyway. It’s less fun for the high tier players. But that’s the problem Bungie faces. They can (apparently) only do two matchmaking modes, which serve two very different audiences, and unfortunately what’s good for one group makes the experience suck for the other. They’re not gonna fix anything at this point. I figure they’ll just flip it back and forth every so often, when they get tired of one group or the other whining about it.
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Speaks the truth!
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At least I'm playing against people from my own country instead of half a world away.
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Say what? It has been the opposite for me. Connections are way better and shorter queue times .
