goes both ways i dont like doing that pve stuff im force to do.

Somehow u forget that bungie needs to lick pvp players. Everything is balanced to pvp players wishes... So expect more pvp fforced activities anyway, since bungie is unable to give 2 options on catalyst

Look at the the twitchy sweats flittering about with their usual thought terminating cliches. Nothing they say well change that Destiny PvP is widely viewed as a joke and a dumpster fire.

All they need to really do is just make it one progression bar and have it you can do it either by killing enemies or guardians and have guardians be worth more. That way people are able to choose the way they want to play, they do it all the time but they never do with these it seems. Guess Bungie doesn't want people to see how many people actually willing choose to play PVP rather then forced to through quests and the like.

When you're asking so nicely, how could Bungie possibly say no?

The same could be said about PvE. Get over it.

Just like not all players are in it for the pve. Hybrid game , just accept it

Its 13 kills if you get the second catalyst buff....

Then don't play it?

Use dynamic control. It one-shots. It was done in 4-5 matches

Thorn bk in the day required you to get a positive kd and void kills to unlock it and first curse require 7 or 10 handcannon headshots in 1 match. These catalysts are easy mode just kill stuff

I don't really play pvp but just wow chill the he'll out it's not difficult it never has been

I don’t mind doing it. I am crap at pvp but still managed to get my 50 kills for catalyst in a day. Only to find out that part 2 requires 50 kills. Boooooo

I agree and respect not wanting to PVP, though, I tend to like to…even though I suck at it. You do raise a point, however, that I’ve had issue with… Catalyst attainment and the “forcing” of gameplay features in general. For the former? Bungie, at the end of the day, just sees numbers and are made to bolster their numbers. They don’t see it as people’s comfort zone and preference. I like MMOs I can play like I want to. Like ESO, which doesn’t seem to lock any content one has to have behind gameplay modes. And nor does it lock levels behind it. You can either craft it yourself, farm it, or participate in seasonal/ public events. Destiny, on the other hand, locked light level/ power level behind raids. So you technically couldn’t achieve full level without raiding, which is a big commitment for some. That’s a full 45 minutes to an hour of not talking to the wife or putting the controller down time. This, for me, was fine in 2014, as I still had some time in my life and a few remaining friends, but then they stopped playing Destiny and we all had significantly less time to play anyway. So, these days? I don’t generally seek out this commitment and high(er) maintenance lifestyle… And that’s when stuff like this begins to become apparent. Granted, PVP takes no commitment, or time. Which is why I love it at times. Sometimes I’m not sure how much time I have, or if the wife will want to (or want me to) go somewhere, and I can easily pop out of a match or simply wait the match out. Anyway…catalysts should be progressional. Something like in Destiny 1. No RNG telling you when you can complete your weapon. Things that concern builds and stats/ perks should be progressional. If I’m told, for instance, a certain raid is best with [insert weapon and perk?] and I can’t even begin to tell you when I’ll ever see that catalyst (never mind the actual weapon to drop)? That’s just wrong…because you’ve got nothing in motion and no clue as to where, or when, it will even drop…so that you can begin killing 700 targets (or whatever the actual requirement is) to actually fulfill the catalyst requirements. You need to be able to plan around builds, not rely on RNG to complete them. We already do that for the item itself.

In momentum the thing is a one hit kill... Since beyond light (and a few seasons before that) every season pass catalyst requires PvP. First step can be done with any gun. Second step always requires the actual exotix gun to progress. Get the first boost from the pass to speed up the progress (it's on the second page already) and you only need a few PvP kills. The rest is PvE then. Currently momentum is active playlist on rotation. In this mode the weapon body shots people for a kill. It's so easy to complete both steps in this...

Oh no, anyways

It’s momentum right now. It’s actually not too bad getting the kills especially with the season pass boost. The thing one shots, charge time is fast, and you don’t even need to hit them directly in many cases.