Edit: I want to say that the forum support has been impeccable here and I in no way want to sound like I'm saying the moderators don't do their job, so if you do decide to read on please bare in mind that my experiences of hate speech and bullying are in game where moderators can't be which I guess is the issue for players who are finding it hard to fit in. There is something amiss with the way in which some players can abuse the voice chat and others who have a genuine reason for wanting to use it.
[i]Okay I'm not going to make a long winded post (insert irony here)[/i]
I've been away from the game for about nine months. This was partially because of the game being a little washed out at the time but also I was regularly experiencing abusive voice chat in game, some centered around my sexuality (which I've unfortunately needed to change on my bio to avoid being targeted) and often I was target with xenophobia as I'm Welsh. You know, the one about the sheep and the mocking of my accent if I use the voice chat.
I decided to return to destiny and I'm not even three days in and somebody started complaining that me and the third playing weren't getting one of the plates in a strike. I joined the chat and told them that I was on my way but they beat me to it and just like clockwork I was called a sheep sh*#&&£r", was subjected to baaas down the headphone and mocked with regards to my Welsh accent and my effeminate tone.
I yet again feel like I don't want to play the game. Why I have to endure this sort of abusive bahaviour from what appears to be grown men acting like children is beyond me. I just cannot see how this is acceptable and how it generally results in nothing more than a 24hr xbox communications ban as if that's a deterrent for extremely ignorant people to not be xenophobic, homophobic or just simply abusive in general.
I just needed to vent here like I've done in the past when this has happened but historically it was to no avail as Bungie seem to leave the the responsibility of policing this in game to Microsoft. It never seems to change and whilst the majority of destiny players are pleasant and welcoming there is a great deal of toxic people too who cant be respectful of others and who pick on unchangeable or unchosen characteristics like sexuality, nationality and unfortunately I've even heard racism.
I in no way want to tar the whole community but this should be something that has a zero tolerance from Bungies perspective and not just in the way of words. Enforceable actions need to apply.
As a countermeasure I've uninstalled this game again. I'm not sure why I thought things may have improved regarding levels of toxicity but I thought I'd give it a go. I really don't experience this sort of behaviour in others games which makes deleting this one so tempting. I can go somewhere else and take part socially and not feel ostracised. Not that prejudice doesn't exist in other games but in other games but it seems like a lottery to bump into players that are so verbally brazen elsewhere, whereas in destiny its relatively common from my POV.
Anyways, vent over. I've gotten it off my chest and though it's all very disappointing, games for me have always been about relaxing, and not getting insulted or feeling like I need to hide who or what I am behind a wall of silence. I accept that it is In no way easy to teach people how to behave but that's why I strongly believe that Bungie should incorporate options that allow players to report certain problems like hate speech and prejudice direct to them as well as the platform provider? I know bungie wants and supports a versatile and safe place for its players but something is amiss when it comes to enforcing that in the game chat itself.
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5 RepliesYawn. I’ve had worse things said to me and others on CoD back in the day.
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3 RepliesIt’s terrible but you really need to not put yourself in those situations.
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5 RepliesEdited by MC 077 Lasombra: 8/3/2021 6:51:38 PMDude, that’s life. Crappy people do crappy things. You should learn to deal with it instead of hiding from it. Hiding just makes you weak and more easily affected. You’re making yourself more of a victim. Learn to deal with it and they lose the influence they have over you.
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1 ReplyAt least you use your mic. When I use a mic it sets off my stammer so I just stopped using it. What really sucks though is a mic is the only way to communicate the mechanics bungie implement into the pinnacle end game activities. No text chat on console no command wheel or something along those lines. You literally have to callout through a mic or you can’t do it
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4 RepliesMute and move on... Maybe the internet isn't for you...
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5 RepliesIs it really hate speech to say sheep shagger…?? Sounds more like banter to me Throwing round the term hate speech for anything we don’t like hearing kind of makes a mockery of actual dangerous language
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5 Replies*gasp* my feewings
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This game feeds off of toxicity. If you make a post based off your opinion, it is considered complaining. If you reply to toxic people, you are considered the problem. These moderators have a twisted sense of justice. This is the mentality of the community.
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1 ReplyDude…. Report verbal abuse if you feel the need to. This world will always have people in it that are assholes. You can’t make that illegal. You just don’t have to surround yourself with them.
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[quote]As a countermeasure I've uninstalled this game again.[/quote] I believe there's already an effective countermeasure in the game via the mute button. There's not much you can do in this situation except mute, report, and move on. And unfortunately, the internet is full obnoxious asshats and by posting your experience here in text form, you're only going to expose yourself to more of them. I'm sure you were posting this here for all the right reasons, in the hopes that Bungie could see it and do something about it, but unfortunately here you're at the mercy of the same toxic fanbase you encountered in-game. Bungie aren't exactly winning any awards for Best Community Support at the 2019 Game Awards or anything... Oh WAIT!!...
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first time one the internet?
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3 ReplieshAtE sPeEcH
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20 Repliesupset by verbal abuse, makes long winded post to receive the abuse in print..
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1 ReplyUsing a mic for a strike? What??
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2 RepliesSomeone actually spoke to you...in a strike? That's wild. I can't even remember the last time I heard someone's voice while running a strike. I'm on Xbox too btw.
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13 RepliesI survived the mw2 era so nobody on earth can get under my skin lol.
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1 Reply[quote]Okay I'm not going to make a long winded post just a quick one.[/quote] So that was a [REDACTED] lie.
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20 RepliesEdited by DidSquiddinton: 7/29/2021 3:01:38 PMAs a female from Essex, I get alot of the stereotypes of being orange, a wh0re, being Stupid and the ever so Lovely "shut uuuppppp babezzz" said to me over and over ....and over again. And just being a female in general comes with its own issues in this game sometimes. It's irritating as hell but I found the best way to get people to stop it is just humour it back. When they don't get a reaction they want, they soon pipe down and with all respect, you need thicker skin when it comes to the Welsh comments. Every where has stereotypes. Think of the people from Alabama or the south in general! 😂 In regards to sexuality, it's absolutely something you shouldn't feel you have to hide and I Read that you state it because you want others to know you're approachable in that sense? Keep that in And sod everybody else, not everybody is gonna like it but keep in mind for every 10 that are negative, it will mean alot to 1. Or, just limit who can contact you? Mute where it's needed and just remember that if someone's got an issue, let it be there's and don't let it be yours ♥️
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11 RepliesEdited by TheArtist: 7/29/2021 11:34:09 AMThere's a saying in Buddhism. "There is no salvation in the world of Form". Loosely it means, "Do not expect perfection from an imperfect world, or stability from a changing world." That its our responsibility to adapt to the world, and not to expect the world to nurture us. The reality here is that TOXIC PEOPLE SIMPLY ARE. Just yesterday, I was at work listening to a group of people loudly mocking people in their 50s, and one woman going on about her own dating standards being "low". Presumably because she's dating someone in that age range. Utterly oblivious to the fact that they were sitting next to someone in his early 50s. The realitly of the world in which we live is that some people are @ssholes....and even some who aren't simply toxic are selfish and self-absorbed. So they hurt and harm others because the move thorugh the world like a bull in a china shop and are oblivous to the impact their behavior has on others. Now throw in the Internet and social media? You now have a two edged sword. A medium that brings you into contact with people from around the world that you normally wouldn't have contact with.....[b][i].and a medium that brings you into contact with people from around the world that you normally wouldn't have contact with. [/i][/b] So, if you wish to maintain your equilibrium, it falls to you to learn how to take care of yourself in the face of toxic people....and throughtless people behaving in toxic ways. Something called personal bourndaries or limits. Sometimes that means taking steps not to expose yourself to these people when you don't have to. When I play online games, I simply do not put on headphones or enter chat unless I have to in order to get content done. Or if I already know the people that I'm talking to (and know that they are decent people.) That lets me shut out a LOT of the toxic noise that goes on in gamer culture these days. In response to the what happened at work? I'm not going to change people who are that toxic, immature, and superficial. So I simply got up and walked away, so I didn't have to hear it. What they were doing said a lot more about them, than it did about me. Move on with my day.... Sometimes it means taking steps to draw bright lines about what you will and will not tolerate. Online that means reporting personally abusive behavior, and blocking the perpetrators Or...in a seperate situation in my workplace right now....holding the person engaging in the behavior personally accountable, and taking steps to maker sure it doesn't happen again by making sure there are consequences for the behavior. But interactions are also a two-way street. Sometimes---we interact in ways that are not helpful, healthy, or productive. As a racial minority----in online interactions--I NEVER reveal that about myself unless I'm dealing with people who I know can handle that information respectully and responsibly, and I NEVER give out any personally identifying information....ever. Its like locking my door and turning on the alarm to my home when I go to sleep at night. In areas where I'm vulnerable, I take extra steps to take care of, and to protect myself from other people's character flaws. It is not your responsibility to see the personal evolution of every wannabe BULLY, and there is no need to paint a target on your back that will draw their attention to you. While uninstalling the game may be helpful in the short term, it is not really a long-term solution to the issue. Because, while Destiny may be the "topic"....it is not really the ISSUE. The issue is learning some basic life skills on the setting and defending of interpersonal boundaries. Which---when mastered---allows you to be exposed to toxic people, but not give them the opportunity to hurt or harm you. If you are part of a marginalized community, have enough love and respect for yourself to guard that information, and see to it that only those **worthy** of knowing that about you, have access to it. While also not giving them the power to affect how you view yourself and your place in the world. IOW, WHY CARE what some random, probably unhappy person thinks of you? When the reality is that they likely wouldn't recognize you if you walked up to them on the street and belted them in the mouth.....and they don't know enough about you to give an honest assesment of your worth as a human being...and almost certainly aren't motivated to do so? [i]"People, places and things only have the power over me that I give them."[/i] -----Alcoholics Anonymous.
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1 ReplyYou would never of survived in the times of the OG Xbox.
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I mean, imo..You've lived long enough to know that mommy isnt going to help every time you encounter a holes. Know what I mean?
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Maybe try joining a mature clan and stay clear of lfg. There are lots of clans with a diverse mixture of members with different accents and backgrounds. LFG is just a toxic toilet full of elitist 12 year old idiots. Don't let a vocal minority ruin something you like when there's still plenty of good people out there that don't judge.
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“Not going to be long winded” *proceeds to be long winded*
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1 ReplyTbh this is nothing new and we all have been at the end of this gun. Take it on the chin and just move on.
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Honestly I do mean this Honestly. Keep all your settings private on your Account. There is literally no reason to advertise your real name, your location or your sexual preference. I'm not saying don't be proud of who you are, but just don't waste your time trying to educate people about why you are the way you are. They don't need to know and I can honestly guess they probably don't care or they simply will just use it against you because they are immature, insignificant children who still haven't moved out of their moms basement. =) I don't think I've ever used game chat. Does it really work on xbox? Lol Anyways Brother, keep it safe and play on. Don't let haters bring you down simply because of ignorance or their bizarre beliefs.