I’m not saying this out of support of sun setting, but to be fair, mtg does the same thing. Sometimes historically rebreaking the meta by accident when they bring back old cards

Luke Smith is completly incompetent. He keeps trying to make this game like other games that are nothing like this. Magic, mmo's... Destiny got some mmo elements but you can't compare it to real mmo's. Problem with L.S. is that he's not capable of seeing Destiny as a game in it's own right and trying to build on that world from that standpoint. Seeing the potential the game has and to bring that to the surface. He's not creative ore good enough to steer this game into a right direction for THIS game. So he just tries to copy what other games do not seeing what it's doing to this game and this community. That's a lack of quality as a game director. No ideas of your own. Try to do what other games do. He's not a real gamedirector. He's a gaming journalist. The wrong leadership is killing this game. It's completly mindboggling how Bungie put this man in this seat and still keeps him there.

Luke Smith destroyed Destiny 2... End of Story

Here's the thing about analogies in a business sense: They're cheap attempts to fool people. Just marketing smoke and mirrors. You should never use an analogy that not everyone can relate to. I don't play card games, his comparison means nothing to me.

They're doing this so they wouldnt have to actually create something, but rather copy-paste old stuff. It's just cost-efficient.

Destiny isn't an MMO. It's not massive, and it doesn't have basic staples of the genre: - a half-dozen or so classes which are in themselves fully customizable - stat-stick gear that you can play specific activities to grind - diverse enough enemy types that each have to be dealt with their own way - semi-frequent massive updates(not just changes and bug fixes) to parts of the game to keep up with player demands - deep and engaging endgame content - a simple leveling system Destiny needs to have its own identity going forward.

Using a Magic Card Game reference is the stupidest thing to do in the first place. By using it, Luke is assuming that every Destiny player plays Magic Fun Time and gets his reference. I have been playing Destiny since D1 Beta and I do not get his reference. The only card games I have ever played are with a 52 card suited deck for poker, black jack etc. I don't understand why he is trying to make Destiny like the Magic Get Together or World of Warcraft (Which I've never played either.) I want to play Destiny. If I wanted to play those other games I would just play those other games. I'm so confused, what in the h*ll is going on around here???? ps. I am not knocking anyone who plays Magic or WoW, I just have never played them and have no interest to play them.

Deej and Cozmo said they would be thinking about allowing you to infuse all sunset rolls into new versions of the gun, raising the power cap.

I'm not here to add anything. I don't know anything about Magic Cards. All I know is I've been playing this game since the beginning. 6 year Destiny vet since beta. I'm not here to complain. I am one of the guys who doesn't agree with Sunsetting. Again, not here to complain. Just expressing my thoughts on the game. This is also kind of a farewell. That's right. I'm quitting the game. I did 2 weeks ago. Paid in full for this last season. Waiting for something big to happen. But nothing. Instead, I've experienced this thing called Sunsetting. Got some new guns from the Umbral engrams and some old recycled guns from everyehere. And I knew exactly right off the bat what sunsetting is all about. And I don't like it at all. Have an open mind and put emotions aside when you read this. Look at the bigger picture. This is the first time this type of Sunsetting occurred in this game. No, it didn't happen before in D1. Didn't happen before when D2 started. Never had this kind of sunsetting where we had a specific time for our guns to be viable in an end game activity before. This is the first time there is a power limit number located in our guns when it is viable to use for end game seasons. And this is the first time it has a 1 year life cycle, in short a shelf life. Here are some of the reasons why this is happening. Again, disperse emotions first and keep an open mind. Sunsetting is a "Red Herring." A red herring is a literary device that can be used at any instance by anyone for the purpose of something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important argumentation. It may be a logical argument that leads readers or audiences toward a false conclusion. In short, they say this but they're actually doing this as well. They say they don't want to make a D3 yet and reset all your gear. But they are actually still resetting your gear. Only in a different way. They used the reason not to make D3 so they won't reset gear because they know there will be a backlash again at them bringing all Exotics back again, regrinding their gear again. So they said they won't do that. That's the "Red Herring" right there. They conditioned your mind that your gonna get something better. Lol. You're not. They're gonna give you something similar. A watered down version of a reset instead. I'm not finished with this, I'll continue at the end of this. Here's another "Red Herring" argument they throw at you. We are doing sunsetting because of powercreep. That's a red herring because it's both true and false. Sunsetting is not about powercreep. There is no powercreep problem. You know why?. . . Because there will always be powercreep "PRESENT" in the game! Powercreep is built into the system of the game. It always is present. It always has been since the game came out 6 years ago. It's called a Metagame. When you introduce a Meta in a game, that itself promotes powercreep. These 2 things go hand in hand together. That's the essence of this game. When you discover a gun is powerful in this game, you will use that gun all the time. Why?. . . Because it is efficient. When you see a much better roll, you will do everything to get it, promote it, and then use it all the time. Because it is "EFFICIENT!" That's what you call having a Meta and powercreep together at the same time. Sunsetting doesn't change that. If you really know Destiny and you've been playing this game really well. This is still going to happen. The only difference is that they control what the Meta is. They can do that because it only lasts for 1 year. Gears that becomes Meta and has a tendency for powercreep only lasts for 1 year now. They control that, so they control their artificial creativity. Which is giving you the same powerful guns that you feel are new creations but really aren't. That's their solution for their creative gun problem. They cannot give you exceedingly powerful guns over and over all the time. It will break the game. So they decided to control it and give it a life cycle. Just to reintroduce a variety of different guns that are just as equal as the ones you've had before. They may look different and have different archetypes. But they will just have the same effect as the ones you've had before. Different carrot, but they all tastes the same. Now that they control that, so they also control you. You are going to be in this perpetual hamster wheel over and over seasonally and yearly. But now they are dangling different looking carrots in front of you, but when you eat it, they all tastes the same, over and over. That's what the new Destiny is all about now. It's gonna happen and it will happen. Its the "NEW" Destiny! This is the Destiny that should have been when it started 6 years ago. If this was happening 6 years ago. This would have established what this game is all about. And I would have still left after the first year of it. Because by then, I would have understood what the game was all about and would easily take it as the game that's not for me. But it took 6 years to get it here. And we are now in this situation. This is the NEW Destiny. And its gonna run for the next 3 years. I'm saying goodbye now to this game because of that reason. Destiny has always been a game about grind. I stuck with it not because I like grinding but because I love the excitement of the activities. Without the grind, Destiny is a really fun game. But with this sunsetting BS, they took grinding to another level and put a choke hold on you while they do you from behind while holding your neck and pulling your hair and as you look back behind you a slobbering bearded guy is yelling "Throw your effing money on the Screen!!!" Okay, maybe it's not just one guy. Yes, he may be in charge of the game but it's all of them that made and agreed on this decision. It's a company, and whatever happens to the game, they are all responsible for this change. Okay, now that's done. Some people asks me, So what's your solution then?. . . How the heck should I know. I don't have an effing solution! If I do, I wouldn't be here, I would be making my own games and playing it. That's the problem here, everyone thinks they have a solution and Devs would implement that and make them heroes. Look where it got the game when Devs listens to all of that BS?. . . If I'm a Chef, I won't let anybody touch my famous recipe, and I will make my own special sauce. I will do that over and over without anyone's influence until I become a Master of it and no one would interfere with it. It's my own creation! I thought that's how this works. I don't have a solution. I'm a gamer, and I love playing fun and exciting games. Don't ask me what to do with the game. Make me one! Impress me with your talent!!! Again, I apologize for the wall of text. This is not an argument. It's just an opinion. And a farewell. You don't need to argue, and I don't need to argue either. This is the NEW Destiny. I accept that. I opened my eyes and realized what this game is becoming to be. And I'm saying goodbye. No regrets. I am moving on. If you see me here in the interwebs, I'm just here to party! Cheers Everyone!!!

I am a tournament level mtg player and his analogy made me cringe. We have multiple competitive types of mtg the one that only previous 2 seasons of cards are usable is called standard and is the "noob" mode. Sure tgere are high level pro players of this format but the effort to keep up switching decks every 3 months is expensive and stressfull. Once you build up your card collection you can move to the "etermal" formats where all cards bar a banned list are valid. Modern takes any card from 8 season to present day and legacy takes any card ever. Those are the funniest and with the most wide ammount of different decks and strategies and I was a player of both but not of the "noob" standard for those reasons. Now Luke wants destiny to emulate the least fun and most simple format and call it a good analogy. He is trying to justify this BS.

You make your point and I agree, but does " The Community" act accordingly to get significant change? No. Some have already boarded the Europa hype train since I've seen the preorder emote in the tower. I am sorry to say but unless"The Community, as a whole" bands together and acts accordingly, with their wallets, nothing will ever change and the game will be an endless recycle. That is why, I too have decided to move on after this season which I paid for. There are better games out there, that respect player investment

An investment system and a grind system can't coexist. Bungie needs to make a decision on which it wants to do and stick with it. Till then not wasting my time and energy getting prisms and cores for gear I'll be scrapping in half a year's time.

Imagine farming armor with the perfect stats and masterworking them. All those ascendant shards wasted. So much wasted only for it all to be sunset. I'll never masterwork armor again. I'll never chase high stats and perfect stats ever again. I'm just gonna run with garbage. Be a walking trash can. FUK.

i recommend you cut way back on your gaming. whether destiny or something else you need to take a break. go visit the real world for a little bit. relax take a walk in the park. no reason to no life a video game that has absolutely nothing to give you but angst.

This is literally the perfect way to explain how stupid sunsetting is. And we haven’t even covered how insane it is that they’re doing this to ARMOR. Cause yeah, like our armor is gonna cause a “PoWeR cReEp.”